Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Connectors

Re:Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Connectors by user_7832 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @05:26PM (#38550348)

I've had lots of hopes for Framework products too - smaller motherboards for possible tablets, a Khadas Mind-type connector like what you're describing, a nicer 13" display like the current 16" one, heck ideally even a Framework phone - modular and _modern_ (unlike Fairphone; also see: small android phone project). But I think given how young/new they are, it's fine for them to take a little longer as long as their "core" products are at least comparable/as good as competition (which I think they are excluding costs).

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Re:Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Connectors by rtkwe on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:32PM (#38551781)

I get why not though tablets and phones are completely different mainboard than a laptop and completely different chipsets with their supporting setups and everything. Trying to have a laptop that works as a tablet or a tablet that works as a laptop is a land of tough compromises and that's not even getting into how tough it'd be to make a thin but repairable tablet.

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Re:Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Connectors by user_7832 on Thursday December 07, 2023 @11:51AM (#38558657)

I probably should've clarified, I am talking about x64/Intel/AMD tablets. I agree size/thickness isn't the easiest, but it's more of an engineering challenge than something impossible. I wouldn't mind an undervolted 7 or 10 Watt i5 tablet at all, and currently surface devices are the only "major" brand selling x64 tablets that I know of.

Another interesting thing regarding small/thin x64 motherboards is the existence of 3.5" ultra-small SBCs like those by Aaeon. If they didn't cost so much I'd love to DIY a tiny, thin tablet out of them. The "advantage" of a small motherboard is that you can put it in a tablet, or put it in a laptop with a better cooling system, potentially reducing the need for another new component.

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Re:Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Connectors by pcchristie on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @10:22PM (#38552470)

The new Fairphone is pretty modern, no?

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Re:Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Connectors by user_7832 on Thursday December 07, 2023 @11:56AM (#38558728)

Unfortunately performance still seems on the lower side. See https://www.androidauthority.com/fairphone-5-benchmarks-3362... for example.

I know it's not necessary to have a blazing fast phone, but as someone using a 2020 iPhone, performance does degrade over time/battery voltage.

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Re:Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Connectors by panick21_ on Thursday December 07, 2023 @04:50AM (#38554647)

They are startup created in 2019. I think you have hilariously unrealistic expectation, making hardware is really hard.

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Re:Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Connectors by user_7832 on Thursday December 07, 2023 @11:36AM (#38558424)

I think you misunderstood my statement. I don’t expect them to do all (or any) of that right now or even in 5 years, I just feel that some of these are goals that tend more towards/continue the trend of the modularity that they’re bringing to the market.

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