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Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by mindcrime on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @04:38PM (#3854869)
Sounds like throwing the baby out with the bathwater to me. I have a hard time seeing how one can justify avoiding providing something that users of a service are desperately eager for, and which would undoubtedly help grow the ecosystem around said service, all because of one potential negative consequence. And especially one that, at the end of the day, people can simulate anyway by just posting the same content (by hand) to G+, Facebook, Twitter, etc.
Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by mmastrac on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @05:16PM (#3855027)
Here's an example of why they don't want to turn it on (this is one of the examples they use internally).

https://plus.google.com/107158560758466172135/posts

Charlie Kindel uses a backdoor to paste his tweets to G+ and adds very little to the community. There is no interaction on his posts - it's just added noise.

Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by cek on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @07:03PM (#3855500)
I came across the service that cross-posts to G+ by accident. The funny thing is I can't even remember its name right now!

I couldn't turn it off if I wanted to (and I don't; I have no desire to "engage" on G+, but the narcissist in me likes knowing as many people are seeing my posts as possible).

I turned it on as an experiment to see how the people who have "circled me" on G+ would react.

The reaction has been mixed. On one hand VicG used it as an example of what not to do. A few others have made snide comments.

On the other hand, I've picked up hundreds of new circlers and gotten some interesting (to me) comments on some of my posts/tweets.

Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by nl on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @08:21PM (#3855744)
I have no desire to "engage" on G+, but the narcissist in me likes knowing as many people are seeing my posts as possible

And there is a best argument against adding a write API to Google+

Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by mindcrime on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @05:39PM (#3855144)
There is no interaction on his posts - it's just added noise.

Fine, then the people who find it to be noise can un-circle him. For the class of people who are largely interested in the same topics as Charlie, it isn't even noise in the first place. Honestly, I don't see this as much of an argument against allowing the Write API.

Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by jack-r-abbit on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @05:48PM (#3855194)
Really? Sure, I don't find his content appealing, but I don't think that has anything to do with the manner in which he posted it. Replace all those tech articles and RT's with links to bacon (or zombie) related content and Mr. Kindel has a shot at being voted president, no?
Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by jsnell on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @07:48PM (#3855639)
The content might be slightly unappealing recycling of tech news, but the manner in which it's posted is what really hurts there. It'd look crappy anywhere, but especially so on Google+ where posts are long form and links are rich.

Like he apparently had some original ideas about the naming of Windows RT, represented in 4 posts each ~100 characters long (one of which seemed to be an "end of split post" marker). It looked the worst of both worlds. And argument so abbreviated it had been reduced to gibberish, but looking very verbose due to having been artificially split.

Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by jack-r-abbit on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @08:42PM (#3855806)
Although... those 4 posts about Windows naming could actually be an argument FOR a write API. If he wasn't using a hacked up backdoor, then maybe he'd have an app that could have handled that in one post. But I do see both sides of this. It just sucks when the few idiots ruin it for everyone else. It'd be nice to post via API and it would be nice if people didn't abuse it. ;)
Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by sad_panda on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @11:50PM (#3856388)
The point is that broadcasting the same message verbatim across every medium and community. removes one's ability to tailor the message for the standards of that community.
Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by jack-r-abbit on Wednesday April 18, 2012 @02:03AM (#3856718)
Not every message needs to be tailored. And not every message need be the same across every medium. Having a write API doesn't force anyone to do either of those things. It would not give or remove anyone's ability to tailor as needed or broadcast verbatim as desired. Having a write API would allow 3rd party apps to add G+ to your options but doesn't force you to act any way you would not already act without the write API. My point was that having a write API doesn't have to be bad... but some abusers will ruin it for the rest.
Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by jamesbritt on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @04:57PM (#3854958)
I have a hard time seeing how one can justify avoiding providing something that users of a service are desperately eager for, ...

How do people know what g+ users are "desperately eager for"?

Have there been studies? Polls?

Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by tobyjsullivan on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @05:05PM (#3854982)
I'll bet Google's done the studies and polls. And I'll bet they are seriously considering the response: "We don't want API-driven auto-junk filling our streams!"
Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by mindcrime on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @05:41PM (#3855148)
"We don't want API-driven auto-junk filling our streams!"

Nobody does, but - again - we're talking about throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. Not everything posted via API is "junk."

Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by jamesbritt on Wednesday April 18, 2012 @04:42PM (#3860079)
Not everything posted via API is "junk."

True, but enough of it is to make it a problem. What could Google do to trap the noise but allow the signal? Rate limiting? Pattern matching against Twitter posts?

Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by mindcrime on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @05:38PM (#3855136)
OK, I don't mean to say that every G+ user wants this, mind you. But that a substantial number do is pretty obvious by the posts to the ticket about this, and observing how people interact with other, similar social networks. Does anybody really think that people wouldn't like to be able to use TweetDeck (or whatever) with G+? Or programatically interface with G+ from their blog, or whatever? I may ultimately be proven wrong, but I'd be shocked it a proper study did not show strong demand for a write API.
Re:A Call for Google+ to Enable Posting via its API by backspace on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @04:56PM (#3854948)
Key words: "by hand" -- posting spam by hand doesn't scale. That's what it's preventing.