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Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by e-i-o-a on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:34AM (#38544370)
Some additional information that might be worth knowing:

* Companies in Sweden are not required to have any collective bargain agreement. Most of them have but many don't. (I've worked in several) * Model Y is the most sold car in Sweden during the period January to October (https://teknikensvarld.expressen.se/nyheter/bil-och-trafik/s...) * Few people working at Tesla Sweden have joined the strike. Even the unions admit that this has been disappointing (https://teslaclubsweden.se/strejken-som-inte-fanns/) * PostNord, the leading postal service has also joined the solidarity strike. For this reason Tesla cannot get license plate numbers to their new cars. Tesla is not allowed to pick them up directly from the factory. This is currently being handled in courts.

/Swede (who has left the country)

Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by nylon_remedy on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:50AM (#38544623)
Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by e-i-o-a on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @10:00AM (#38544680)
That is correct. Union membership is lower though and trending downwards: https://www.scb.se/hitta-statistik/redaktionellt/fler-kvinno...
Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by nabla9 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @10:05AM (#38544749)
More additional information that might be worth knowing especially for American friends.

Sweden (like many other countries) engages in sectoral bargaining where trade unions or labor unions make a collective agreement that covers all companies in the sector. Trade unions form confederations demarcated by occupation and they negotiate with their counterpart employer organisations to get deals that cover most of the sector. In other words, there are existing labor agreements from multiple sectors that cover millions of workers.

Tesla has the bargaining power is fly shit against unions and confederations that represent 80-90 percent of the Swedish workforce.

Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by jplrssn on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @10:14AM (#38544882)
> Few people working at Tesla Sweden have joined the strike

Tesla claims that 90% of their employees in Sweden have refused to strike, but that figure seemingly includes office workers and others who would never have been part of the metalworkers' strike to begin with. The union itself claims about 50%. [0]

[0] https://da.se/2023/11/sa-manga-strejkar-pa-tesla-if-metall-g...

Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by matsemann on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @11:52AM (#38546352)
And threats about losing their stock options if they participate, or if you're a worker not on a permanent visa you're afraid of losing your job as Musk is known to fire people over this.

Which is kinda why the strike is from other workers in other companies.

Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by martin8412 on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @12:07PM (#38546592)
The threats are illegal.
Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by garblegarble on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:48AM (#38544595)
>PostNord, the leading postal service has also joined the solidarity strike

Given PostNord's less than stellar efficiency, this could be entirely unintentional on their part :-)

Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by e-i-o-a on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:58AM (#38544653)
Haha very true
Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by mgiannopoulos on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @05:00PM (#38550130)
What I find interesting in this whole situation is that there are huge Swedish companies like Spotify (which I believe are run/founded by Swedes) that do not have a union agreement [0]. Yet somehow Musk is the evil American capitalist that does not respect local customs :)

0: https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/sweden-s...

Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by Dah00n on Thursday December 07, 2023 @03:14AM (#38554084)
Even though Spotify does have some metal in their catalogue, I don't see how a metalworkers union could strike against Spotify. Instead of some anti-US sentiment that you not-so-hidden point at, the real answer is different unions with different cultures and bargaining power.
Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by mgiannopoulos on Thursday December 07, 2023 @06:47PM (#38563424)
I guess a /s was missing from your the first part of your comment. Still, the sentiment I sense is mostly anti-Musk/anti-billionaires. It’s fine to talk about differences in cultures but when you have Swedish companies founded by Swedes (and how are now also billionaires) doing the same thing as Tesla, the narrative kind of brakes down imho. How did Spotify get away not having a union for over 15 years?
Re:Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade by Dah00n on Tuesday December 12, 2023 @08:22AM (#38611738)
>How did Spotify get away not having a union for over 15 years?

I think you are missing the point here. You seem to be basing your expectations on one union by how another union behaves. I have no idea why they do what they do, but this is not some kind of US hate thing - that's a bit far-fetched in my opinion.

Ask yourself this: Where you live, is the culture and history of a union representing metalworkers the same as those that would be representing someone from Spotify? In most countries, unions in different areas act very differently. Programmers, metalworkers, miners, academia - their unions are more often than not very different.