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Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by andrepd on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @06:45AM (#38542650)
If you read the whole context, that is not the point at all. The point is (1) that the Python event would be an effective safe space even in a context of LGBT persecution, and (2) that it's illegitimate and counterproductive to prevent such an event from happening just because it's located in a less than enlightened country. Both of those are valid.
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by ayhanfuat on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @06:54AM (#38542704)
What is an effective safe space other than saying "relax, generally nothing happens"? Are you guaranteeing their safety? Of course not. I live in a "less than enlightened" country and I do know when everything feels safe tiny little things can lead to catastrophic consequences. I experience it regularly. Effective means nothing.
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by DeathArrow on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:05AM (#38542776)
>tiny little things can lead to catastrophic consequences

Do you mean things that are against the law?

Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by ayhanfuat on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:10AM (#38542805)
Things that are against the law or things powerful people don't like. Law is just a tool for them.
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by Xeamek on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:08AM (#38542791)
How does it matter?
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by DeathArrow on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:13AM (#38542828)
It just shows the relationship between cause and effect. Violation of the law can lead to undesirable consequences for the perpetrator.
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by caskstrength on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:35AM (#38543024)
> It just shows the relationship between cause and effect. Violation of the law can lead to undesirable consequences for the perpetrator.

I'm sure "perpetrators" of laws like "don't be gay" or "don't be a jew" are very interested in causal intricacies resulting their prosecution/persecution...

Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by konschubert on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:32AM (#38543001)
And if the law is that you should not be gay then that makes it a bad country to host a python event.
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by Xeamek on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:33AM (#38543015)
This type of discussions are about what should be, not about what is. Your comment doesn't add anything. In fact, it does about as much sense as randomly stating "water is wet". Technically true, but so what?
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by DeathArrow on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:40AM (#38543077)
>This type of discussions are about what should be Generally, citizens of a country and lawmakers decide what should be, not PSF or random commenters on the Internet.
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by Xeamek on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @07:46AM (#38543127)
Slavery was decided to be good, until it wasn't.

Morality doesn't exist and everything that is law is good by definition?

What are you even saying

Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by andrepd on Saturday December 09, 2023 @07:45AM (#38581515)
In what sense does not organising conferences in your country help you then?
Re:An Open Letter to the Python Software Foundation by HelloNurse on Thursday December 07, 2023 @05:13AM (#38554804)
That's how the conference organizers see it, but other people have a different context. For example: why should a whole community implicitly support LGBT persecution by supporting a conference in a "less than enlightened" country? Why should I go to a country where I am hated and concretely risking trouble for my sexual orientation? Why aren't these organizers able to find a more suitable location, like South Africa a few years ago?