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Re:Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage Client for Android by ronsor on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @01:41PM (#38535131)
Apple or Meta (WhatsApp) trying to take down something like this would almost certainly be viewed unfavorably by the ever-lurking EU regulators.
Re:Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage Client for Android by freedomben on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @02:02PM (#38535397)
That's the only reason I'm not confident that Apple will kill this. They wouldn't want the regulatory attention and (at least for now) this is a niche area that few people know about.
Re:Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage Client for Android by xgl5k on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @03:54PM (#38536760)
Easier to kill something when it is a small niche area that few people know about rather than wait until it gets bigger and more people use it.
Re:Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage Client for Android by xinayder on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @04:52PM (#38537437)
Except that Matrix never profited from it. Beeper is the first company to provide a paid service for it and had their own servers. But now they are providing a paid (with a free tier) service that runs on Apple/Meta/Signal infrastructure.

This is asking to draw unwanted attention towards yourself.

Re:Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage Client for Android by smashah on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @08:11PM (#38539284)
Please read this:

https://gist.github.com/smashah/667d4d5cf31670ee87547450861a...

The game being played here is poker. If they call beeper's bluff then they risk setting a whole industry wide precedent that interop supercedes ToS (that's the only angle).

As it stands, ToS based C&D for interop is untested afaik.

We as a community need to discuss ToS-trolling and fight against it.

Re:Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage Client for Android by xinayder on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @04:13AM (#38541865)
This doesn't hold up.

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/9966

https://github.com/libresignal/libresignal/issues/37

unless the EU rushes out their legislation that interop is not grounds for terminating someone's account, I'm sorry, but they can do whatever they want to with their app.

Would you feel happy if someone used your home network to seed torrents? Using your bandwidth to seed them?

Re:Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage Client for Android by smashah on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @09:09PM (#38551979)
Terminating accounts is fair game. Billion dollar companies making legal threats to OSS devs is another.

I can kick said person off my network. It shouldn't be grounds for me to go and start legal proceedings against the developers of uTorrent.