Re:UK porn watchers could have faces scanned
by Joker_vD on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @11:42AM
(#38533249)
The 2nd Amendment is worded as a conditional ("since well-trained militia is required for the state security, the citizens must be allowed to bear firearms") and its premise is actually false, so shouldn't it, technically speaking, have lost its legal power?
[ Parent
| on HN ]
Re:UK porn watchers could have faces scanned
by wait_a_minute on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @01:05PM
(#38534617)
No, and your understanding of it is not reflected by the SCOTUS. You do not need to be in a militia to benefit from the 2nd Amendment or access it.
Re:UK porn watchers could have faces scanned
by andreasmetsala on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @03:44PM
(#38536661)
I thought he meant it the other way around. Since militias are not required for the security of the state, citizens don’t need to bear arms.
Re:UK porn watchers could have faces scanned
by beaeglebeach on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @03:43PM
(#38536652)
Basically every able bodied citizen male is in the 'unorganized militia' anyway per US code.
Re:UK porn watchers could have faces scanned
by philwelch on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @06:08PM
(#38538215)
If you’re a male American citizen of a certain age, you are in the militia. Thats what “militia” means—it refers to the part of the citizenry capable of military service.
Re:UK porn watchers could have faces scanned
by wait_a_minute on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @01:34PM
(#38547787)
Fair enough as it's a very loose definition and doesn't require formalities or any kind of actual restrictions on the right.
Re:UK porn watchers could have faces scanned
by philwelch on Wednesday December 06, 2023 @08:20PM
(#38551702)
Historically it did. The Second Congress passed two Militia Acts in 1792, the second of which mandated that each member of the militia buy a musket or rifle along with ammunition and other kit, and to be organized into specific units as directed by their state legislatures.
Re:UK porn watchers could have faces scanned
by lsllc on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @05:30PM
(#38537829)
The Bill of Rights (i.e. the first 10 Amendments) are individual rights. There's plenty of commentary about this, but quoting from the ACLU in particular:
"The entire Bill of Rights was created to protect rights the original citizens believed were naturally theirs."
https://www.aclu.org/documents/bill-rights-brief-history
Re:UK porn watchers could have faces scanned
by dragonwriter on Tuesday December 05, 2023 @05:33PM
(#38537857)
The Bill of Righte contained 12 proposed amendments, 11 of which have been ratified.
We've just gotten used to calling it the first 10, because the other one took a long time to ratify.