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Re:A High Frequency Trader's Apologia, Part 1 by paulsutter on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @11:51AM (#3853159)
His complaint was that the post failed to explain why 15ms liquidity has any value, not the terminology. I didn't detect any sarcasm there.
Re:A High Frequency Trader's Apologia, Part 1 by tptacek on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @12:03PM (#3853232)
I think if you read his comment just a little more carefully you'll see what I was responding to. I don't have a "side" in this particular debate.
Re:A High Frequency Trader's Apologia, Part 1 by mattmanser on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @01:19PM (#3853767)
I totally don't understand what you're on about, sorry. Paul summed up my point perfectly.

You seem to be forming a habit of ascribing things to me I didn't say. It's getting a little embarrassing/annoying.

Re:A High Frequency Trader's Apologia, Part 1 by nihilum on Wednesday April 18, 2012 @04:01AM (#3856976)
> Apart from mini-crashes.

The Flash Crash was caused by the NYSE's faulty time-stamping system. It essentially broadcast false information that caused traders to think there was an arbitrage opportunity. This was entirely the NYSE's fault. See here for details: http://www.nanex.net/20100506/FlashCrashAnalysis_Part3-1.htm...

> And massive profits for companies that create nothing

They prevent you from paying even more to corrupt exchange specialists. This creates billions of dollars a year in value. They also have a neat ability to help the market recover from irrational crashes in 20 minutes, instead of lingering there for days or months while everyone is too scared to provide liquidity.

> and actually were the cause of the recent financial meltdown.

HFT is completely unrelated to the financial meltdown. The financial meltdown was caused by a housing bubble. HFT market makers don't even trade mortgage-backed securities. Those were traded over-the-counter (basically via phone calls) by investment banks.

If you don't know what these words mean, then look them up instead of complaining about it. If you want to make a point, it is your obligation to understand the subject matter. Don't argue about things you don't understand.

Re:A High Frequency Trader's Apologia, Part 1 by tptacek on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @01:31PM (#3853872)
"All you've done is talk about the process with as many technical words as you could"