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Re:LocomotiveCMS Approaches 2.0 Release by wh-uws on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @11:50AM (#3853152)
I would be using it if it didn't insist on MongoDB.

I just dont trust data I care about to it

Re:LocomotiveCMS Approaches 2.0 Release by rb2k_ on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @11:53AM (#3853179)
with a CMS you have barely any writes. Not sure your fear is well grounded in reality :)
Re:LocomotiveCMS Approaches 2.0 Release by sgrove on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @12:02PM (#3853222)
I actually agree with the OP in general. I have a mistrust of MongoDB overall, and avoid using it in big, data-intensive situations...

BUT, in LocomotiveCMS and a few others, it make brilliant sense. Like you mentioned, it's very lightweight in terms of DB-writes, and allows for a flexibility that when put together the way the the Locomotive team has done makes a CMS a wonderful thing for end users.

So I think you guys are both right in the this case. Choose the right tool for the job and all that... and the Locomotive team definitely chose the right tool.

Re:LocomotiveCMS Approaches 2.0 Release by wh-uws on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @12:39PM (#3853455)
Doesn't everytime you update anything with the cms require a write? (asking purely out of ignorance to learn not to be snarky)

Not to mention everytime a user of the site updates content

Re:LocomotiveCMS Approaches 2.0 Release by rb2k_ on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @02:48PM (#3854325)
yeah, but that's about write every minute or so, even if you have 100 monkeys on 100 typewriters
Re:LocomotiveCMS Approaches 2.0 Release by sandGorgon on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @02:12PM (#3854117)
Just an opinion - none of us will be able to push Locomotive in an enterprise setting (which is precisely where CMS makes a lot of sense) without it supporting a relational DB.

Dont get me wrong - I get the value proposition of mongo - but in this case, it is taking away a lot and not giving me anything in return.

Re:LocomotiveCMS Approaches 2.0 Release by did on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @04:50PM (#3854927)
We chose the tools that worked best for us and for our clients. LocomotiveCMS is already used by startups, web agencies, and big companies to design, deploy, and update sites every day. If Mongodb becomes a limiting factor, or if someone provides an equally elegant implementation on top of a RDMS, we'll happily switch. Until then, we'll focus on building our vision of the most elegant and friendly CMS possible.
Re:LocomotiveCMS Approaches 2.0 Release by sandGorgon on Wednesday April 18, 2012 @05:47AM (#3857175)
could you elaborate on "equally elegant implementation on top of a RDMS" ? Genuinely want to know what advantage did mongo give you in a CMS setting.

Were you able to design a better architecture because of Mongo/nosql or was it developer productivity ?

Re:LocomotiveCMS Approaches 2.0 Release by runako on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @12:47PM (#3853503)
I'm not well-versed in Mongo, but it seems like the comment was saying that he didn't trust Mongo to handle any writes. Your response seems to say that since there aren't many writes to lose, it's okay. Does that concede that Mongo will lose data? (I didn't know that about Mongo.)
Re:LocomotiveCMS Approaches 2.0 Release by bgilroy26 on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @02:38PM (#3854274)
To explain the parent comment, in a write heavy application, you would probably want to turn off transactions in Mongo in return for the performance gain.

What the comment you're responding to is saying is that when you aren't making many writes, you can afford to switch transactions on and have Mongo lock the whole database because the odds of having a read come in at the same moment are much lower than if you were making a write every second.

Re:LocomotiveCMS Approaches 2.0 Release by runako on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @03:00PM (#3854379)
Ahh, thanks for the explanation. This clears up something I didn't know about Mongo (next to nothing other than that the other commenters all seemed to indicate that it should not be used for writes).

Much more informative than a downvote.