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Re:Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellp... by tick_tock_tick on Monday December 04, 2023 @07:58PM (#38525663)
3/4 of teacher believe in "learning styles" which we figured out was bunk science pretty much the instant it came out. It sucks that we'll probably crush the great teacher but forcing so much standardization but the simple fact is most teachers can't be trusted to actually make good decisions or teach well.
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Re:Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellp... by s1artibartfast on Monday December 04, 2023 @08:32PM (#38525880)
The question then is if you expect better outcomes from the same teachers you dont trust, who cant teach, and make bad decisions if you provide them a script they hate.

Do you expect better outcomes if they quit and you replace them with training videos?

Call me a skeptic, but I dont think standard lesson plans will move the needle for a shitty teacher that doesn't give a shit. They probably wont even engage with that standard lesson plan.

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Re:Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellp... by tick_tock_tick on Thursday December 07, 2023 @08:35PM (#38564301)
> The question then is if you expect better outcomes from the same teachers you dont trust, who cant teach, and make bad decisions if you provide them a script they hate.

Yes

> Do you expect better outcomes if they quit and you replace them with training videos?

You still need someone to enforce the kids are actually doing what they've been instructed to but yes I'd expect an equal or better outcome.

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Re:Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellp... by hutzlibu on Monday December 04, 2023 @08:28PM (#38525839)
"the simple fact is most teachers can't be trusted to actually make good decisions or teach well"

Another simple fact is, that despite all that effort and forced curriculum and years of attending - most people don't understand even basic science. So I question, that the current system is working efficiently at all.

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