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Re:Most people don't realize how much progress we've made on... by s1artibartfast on Monday December 04, 2023 @02:40PM (#38522071)
There is plenty of debate and compromise about climate change in China, it just happens behind closed doors. This includes basically all the same questions in the US: Is it real, how bad will it be, what is the acceptable cost for mitigation, how much mitigation is worth it. Stance and strategy on all of these things can and do change in China.

Furthermore, this is a public discussion about climate change in China. The Chinese public ranks climate change as higher priority than in the US. There are several reasons for this, not all of which are top down propaganda. For example, the Chinese population has more recent, immediate, and extreme experience with the negative impacts of environmental disruption.

Re:Most people don't realize how much progress we've made on... by corethree on Monday December 04, 2023 @03:46PM (#38522803)
Right, of course there is always compromise. But this compromise is made by a third party authority with NO business interest: The authoritarian government. This type of compromise is unbiased and that's why it's able to move faster and be more effective. And like you said, public opinion can be shifted via propaganda and manipulation towards more environmentally positive outcomes.

In the US compromise is different. Compromise is active corporate entities with zero interest in the environment trying to further their own self serving goals. It a standstill via debate. You can see why it's less effective. Additionally, because of freedom of the press propaganda, from both sides can influence public opinion which leads to division of opinion.