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Re:Cocoa harvested by kids as young as 5 in Ghana: CBS News ... by bigbillheck on Friday December 01, 2023 @05:29PM (#38493426)
Worth a try.
Re:Cocoa harvested by kids as young as 5 in Ghana: CBS News ... by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS on Friday December 01, 2023 @06:29PM (#38494035)
I believe it has, indeed, been tried
Re:Cocoa harvested by kids as young as 5 in Ghana: CBS News ... by FirmwareBurner on Friday December 01, 2023 @06:48PM (#38494200)
Where? In former communist countries the workers didn't have any power after the seizing of the means of production, as now they were ruled by brutal dictatorships with powerful militaries who'd send you to the gulag for $REASON.

Hardly the envisioned "seizing the means of production" and more like "being seized for production".

Re:Cocoa harvested by kids as young as 5 in Ghana: CBS News ... by AndrewKemendo on Friday December 01, 2023 @10:38PM (#38495654)
Well said! Rarely do you see the description of Soviet state demand production vs anarchist syndicalism as concise and precise as this.

The idea of self governance in semi autonomous groups has been derided as primitive so thoroughly that the mere concept evokes fear and disgust

Truly we have centuries to undo these tropes of domination and competition as the only way to organize society

Re:Cocoa harvested by kids as young as 5 in Ghana: CBS News ... by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS on Friday December 01, 2023 @11:33PM (#38495891)
I've yet to see evidence that outcomes would ever be different
Re:Cocoa harvested by kids as young as 5 in Ghana: CBS News ... by FirmwareBurner on Saturday December 02, 2023 @01:10AM (#38496377)
Where would you see that evidence if it was nevere done? Because it can't really be done.

Because the workers themselves don't have power to seize anything. The military is the one with the power to seize stuff come a revolution because they're the ones with a lot of big guns, not the workers. But now the workers themselves become part of the things being seized, to serve the military leadership, not the workers.

Workers get screwed either way.

Re:Cocoa harvested by kids as young as 5 in Ghana: CBS News ... by bigbillheck on Saturday December 02, 2023 @10:01AM (#38499040)
With a couple of notable exceptions (Cambodia, and mid-90s North Korea) that still sounds like an improvement in their material conditions.