Re:Seamless: Meta's New Speech Models
by spaceywilly on Friday December 01, 2023 @12:11PM
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To me the key functionally for any language learning app is giving you feedback on your pronunciation and general understanding. I’ve been using Duolingo to learn Mandarin and when I try to speak to anyone it’s difficult for them to understand me, because my pronunciation is all wrong. The app is just feeding info to me one way, and I can try my best to recreate what I’m hearing, but there’s no way to know if I’m messing it up. They do have a speaking feature but it doesn’t work very well, certainly not to the same level as speaking with a real person who is fluent in the language and having them correct you.
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Re:Seamless: Meta's New Speech Models
by throwaway4aday on Friday December 01, 2023 @01:03PM
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As a quick solution, you should try recording yourself speaking and then listen to it to check your pronunciation against some reference. So for example, find a YouTube video in the language you're learning that also has good subtitles (use https://filmot.com/ ) and listen to how they say the phrase and then record yourself saying the same phrase and play it back and compare.
I practiced for a long time using the below pronunciation trainer and I get a ton of compliments from native speakers on how accurate my pronunciation is.
https://fluent-forever.com/product/fluent-forever-pronunciat...
It's the same struggle language learners have faced for a long time regardless of app or not. I did careful studies of the French grammar, read French books, listened to audio tapes in French, and I still got prononciation wrong often.
I resisted using Duolingo because I knew their speaking feature sucks. But the only reason I need an app rather than books or audio tapes is that I need something to correct my prononciation.
Re:Seamless: Meta's New Speech Models
by addandsubtract on Saturday December 02, 2023 @04:20AM
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There are other language learning apps, such as Busuu, which make you record and peer-review other people's pronunciations.