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Re:The Case for Challenging Music by anon291 on Thursday November 30, 2023 @07:09PM (#38481115)
I think it's a valid point. Mozart and Beethoven's music was at the end of the day made to appeal to mass audiences. Although considered niche now, Mozart was quite the celebrity in his day and had a loyal base of (mostly female) followers. Whereas modern classical is meant to appeal to musicians, not a mass audiences.

We forget that although there are many surviving transcripts of their work, Mozart and Beethoven also improvised and performed on stage a lot. That whole genre of classical music is lost.

Re:The Case for Challenging Music by zozbot234 on Thursday November 30, 2023 @07:19PM (#38481205)
Mozart's music was considered too edgy and quirky in his day, actually. People who were knowledgeable about music tended to like it a lot because they could follow all the twists and turns, but Salieri was the more popular composer with the mass public. The story with Beethoven is not very different, ultimately some of the simplest pieces of his were the most popular and he wasn't very happy about that.
Re:The Case for Challenging Music by anon291 on Thursday November 30, 2023 @10:38PM (#38482838)
> The story with Beethoven is not very different, ultimately some of the simplest pieces of his were the most popular and he wasn't very happy about that.

I'm sure many artists fall into the trap of 'the public likes the work I like least'. That doesn't make the work not part of the authors creation. For example, Raffi makes extremely popular (and actually pretty good) music and I'm sure he absolutely hates having to play it over and over again. Still a better artist than Schoenberg.

Re:The Case for Challenging Music by vonjuice on Thursday November 30, 2023 @07:57PM (#38481543)
If you read some reactions and reviews for music from Beethoven, Wagner, Mahler, in their time, it is not much different than someone now hearing contemporary classical music.