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Re:The origins of the steam engine by hutzlibu on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @07:15PM (#38467390)
Here on HN I read about the theory, that one of the main reasons that the time of the steam engines came, was the rise of the cannon. Over generations, every king wanted to have the best cannons as that translated into power - and once you can build a cannon, you can build something that can contain high pressures and give that pressure a direction. In other words, to take that toy further, they would have also had to greatly improve their metallurgy first. Otherwise a smart greek inventor would have just created spectacular (and dangerous) booms, but nothing that could reliable do more work, than a ordinary slave.
Re:The origins of the steam engine by antonhowes on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @09:29PM (#38468628)
Hmm, I don't think Savery's engine would have required that - it's just a copper vessel, and the pipes were often even made of wood. I've often seen the cannon theory applied to piston-using engines, but that was the next stage with Papin and Newcomen and beyond (hopefully our chapter II)
Re:The origins of the steam engine by hutzlibu on Monday December 04, 2023 @07:24AM (#38516411)
Not an expert, but apperently this design was hard even with the modern tech_

"Second, the next stage of the process required high-pressure steam to force the water up, and the pump's soldered joints were barely capable of withstanding high pressure steam and needed frequent repair."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Savery

Re:The origins of the steam engine by freitzkriesler2 on Thursday November 30, 2023 @12:56PM (#38476620)
I see that but we know the Romans had lead pipes. I'm curious how much steam those pipes could withstand. Perhaps enough to get some sort of rotary tool.

Regardless, it's a fun hypothetical to think of an ancient Roman and Greek steam age.