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Re:Greek PM 'annoyed' by Britain canceling meeting over Part... by m000 on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @04:57AM (#38457511)
Mitsotakis' plan for the sculptures is extremely self-serving and overall sucks for Greece. It effectively legitimizes the possesion of the Parthenon Sculptures by the British Museum, overturning decades of challenging the legality of the acquisition.

The TL;DR of the Museum's claim over the sculptures is that lord Elgin purchased them from the Ottomans, but somehow the purchase and removal permit documents were lost. That is a very shady claim. A modern day parallel would be puchasing Ukrainian heritage artifacts from Russia, and losing the transaction papers.

So, I'd say good for Greece! PM Sunak proved a great friend to the country.

Re:Greek PM 'annoyed' by Britain canceling meeting over Part... by okeuro49 on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @10:46AM (#38460871)
> Mitsotakis' plan for the sculptures is extremely self-serving and overall sucks for Greece.

What is the plan?

Re:Greek PM 'annoyed' by Britain canceling meeting over Part... by m000 on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @02:30PM (#38464075)
The plan is* to return them for display in the Acropolis museum as a loan from the BM. In exchange, Greece will loan to the BM equally important artifacts (rumors include Agamemnon's death mask) to replace the sculptures. See [1], [2]. This, of course, legitimizes the ownership of the sculptures by the BM, and precludes further restitution claims by Greece.

Mitsotakis administration has already made a similar arrangement for the Stern collection of cycladic artifacts [3]. The archaeologists in Greece are in arms for the case, because the collection includes smuggled artifacts. Displaying it in a public Greek museum effectively legitimizes smuggling of antiquities, as long as you are cozy with the Greek government.

Fun fact: Mitsotakis family used to have a private antiquities collection that turned out to be illegitimate and they were forced to relinquish it [4].

So, Mitsotakis pretending to be the protector of the ancient Greek heritage is nothing less than a bad joke.

*or at least was, in which case Sunak was smart to dodge the meeting.

[1] https://www.returningheritage.com/returning-the-parthenon-ma...

[2] https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/greece-to-offer-artefact-...

[3] https://www.returningheritage.com/an-inventive-collaboration...

[4] https://www.theartnewspaper.com/1994/02/01/former-greek-prem...

Re:Greek PM 'annoyed' by Britain canceling meeting over Part... by okeuro49 on Thursday November 30, 2023 @12:22PM (#38476129)
That plan does sound like the worst of both worlds.

I wouldn't mind seeing the marbles returned, solely from the perspective that I like the Classics and I think it would be cool to have them near the Acropolis.