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by 2Gkashmiri on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @05:00AM
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zerotier and tailscale is very good at this. you can lock down everything and it wouldn't matter because you still can connect from anywhere with all the security you want at each places.
i run multiple zerotier networks at different levels and they all work transparently.
i dont like tailscale as the hosted platform wants you to use an oath login and i have had bitter experiences with it so zerotier it is.
zerotier does not have a public gateway option where you can have a network only access the internet via a certain point (maybe it can be done but it isnt easy as tailscale) but i am happy with it.
i also do not have to worry about VPNs and all that because zerotier does that for me.
you can self host both so you are in control at all times
Considering you run already run these zerotier networks, I would assume you heard of it, but since I don't see it mentioned and you (for obvious reasons) don't like tailscale, have you heard/used headscale (the opensource implementation of the controller(hosted) for tailscale) ?
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by 2Gkashmiri on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @06:36AM
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yeah.
i know we can self host zerotier and headscale but i feel like i am invested in the zerotier network and i don't want to try another thing.
Doing that itself certainly isn't perfect, obviously if facing actual targeted APTs horizontal movement efforts can be expected. But running a service with any kind of public exposure is pretty different in terms of threat profile and the sheer volume of attacks one can expect. Even with something really simple, some minimal static page serving, I'd still want it somewhere completely on a different network from my main stuff. Let alone huge gigantic complex many moving part apps like these cloud options! Individuals or small teams need to manage their available time/resources pretty tightly, and even a huge team would have trouble locking down something like that.