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Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by TheCleric on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @06:12PM (#38452911)
I agree but as long as the government makes it easy to do, it will continue.
Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by lotsofpulp on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @06:24PM (#38453050)
Since tipping is expected even in the states with no separate tipped minimum wages, the only way this would happen is if the government prohibited people from giving money to other people.

There is no government involvement in tipping, it is a social custom. And I don’t think the government can or should do anything about it.

Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by TheCleric on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @06:28PM (#38453106)
> There is no government involvement in tipping

As long as there are separate laws for tipped vs non tipped employees, the government is involved in tipping.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped

Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by lotsofpulp on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @06:31PM (#38453142)
Federal law requires the same minimum wage, regardless of tipped or not tipped. So if you don’t tip, the employer has to make up the difference.

Also, note

> Since tipping is expected even in the states with no separate tipped minimum wages,

Re:He thought tending bar sounded like fun. Then the entire ... by TheCleric on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @06:39PM (#38453231)
> Federal law requires the same minimum wage, regardless of tipped or not tipped.

And if you believe that actually happens I’ve got a bridge in London to sell you.

Every person I’ve ever met who has ever lived on tips has been hosed on this. Employers will just adjust your hours to make the math work out rather than paying you more money. There’s a reason wage theft is a $50 billion dollar a year grift (though that’s not limited to just tipped employees).