Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised

Re:Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @01:05PM (#38448793)

The Cybertruck will be the ultimate "fuck you" status symbol after everyone got bored of the vanilla Teslas as every tech bro and their mom have one now and in the wealthy EU cities they're used as taxis, making them uncool for those who want to be seen as "avantgarde" while still retaining the vulgarity of the pick-up truck.

Elon was a marketing genius here.

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised by toomuchtodo on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @01:06PM (#38448818)

Everyone buys different luxury goods. If they want cybertrucks, and it offsets combustion miles, so be it. Telling the consumer they don’t want something doesn’t work; give them what they want.

Anything that destroys petroleum demand is welcome, even if impractical. Not my money.

(the US is responsible for ~35% of global gasoline consumption [1] [2] [3])

[1] https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/gasoline-superusers-only-...

[2] https://coltura.org/gasoline-superusers-2-report/

[3] https://ibb.co/Vq928g5

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised by uoaei on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @01:09PM (#38448878)

Many people don't buy luxury goods, even those with money. Luxuries are pointless by definition, so clearly having money is not a valuable metric for knowing what's good or not.

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised by toomuchtodo on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @01:13PM (#38448966)

People who don’t have purchasing power don’t move the needle. Inconvenient truth. They get dragged along by other factors.

Tesla built out their >$1B global supercharger network and manufacturing base on luxury vehicle sales (S, X), for example (until they could spin up 3, Y, and utility scale storage manufacturing). And their profit margin is still higher than legacy auto.

TLDR Sell to people with money and who aren’t price sensitive, pour that cashflow into spinning up a flywheel. Fighting reality will lead to disappointment, ignore feelings and operate according to the data. Go where the money is. Buyers with only opinions are not worth chasing.

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @04:02PM (#38451258)

>People who don’t have purchasing power don’t move the needle. Inconvenient truth.

Yes they do. You'll never complete the EV transition by only selling 50k+ Euro EVs. Eventually you'll run out of people with disposable income to buy your pricy EVs and those are the minority of consumers, not the majority.

China leads the world in EV sales precisely because they didn't start at the top selling premium EVs first, but started instead from the bottom by selling cheap EVS to the mases.

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised by chrisco255 on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @01:16PM (#38449023)

I mean, the Cybertruck starts at $39K, so it's right in line with other trucks available on the market in the U.S. They haven't really chosen a luxury price point. They clearly intend to mass market this thing. Pick-up trucks aren't vulgar, they're simply practical and useful.

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised by heleninboodler on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @02:10PM (#38449899)

In 2019, the target starting price was ~$40k. Given inflation and other factors that have wildly increased prices, as well as it more and more sounding like a "halo" vehicle, as well as the supply being a tiny fraction of demand, I'd be surprised if the starting price wasn't literally double that $40k. I guess we'll see soon.

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised by zlsa on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @01:22PM (#38449136)

It has been a while since they've talked about that price, and I would not expect it to be anywhere near that price point today, given <gestures at everything>.

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised by chrisco255 on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @02:09PM (#38449883)

They might jack it up by $10K or so but that still puts it in line with other passenger trucks. An F150 dual cab Lariat starts at $57K. Dual cab Tacomas with four wheel drive run at least $38K, but if you want leather seats and a nicer trim like Teslas come with, that typically runs $48K or more.

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised by hamburglar on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @04:08AM (#38457183)

There is no chance a cybertruck is going to start at a mere $10k over original base price. My prediction is that it’ll “start at” $70k for the one-motor version, but that won’t be available for over a year. The 2 and 3 motor builds will be prioritized and they will cost $90k+

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised by FirmwareBurner on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @04:28AM (#38457309)

>There is no chance a cybertruck is going to start at a mere $10k over original base price.

My opinion as well. There's no way Tesla can deliver everything, or at least most of what they promised about the Cybertruck at that price point, considering the manufacturing challenges of that thing.

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Re:Tesla Cybertruck payload capacity 29% less than promised by orwin on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @02:02PM (#38449779)

I'm not sure the current cybertruck can pass the EU safety laws :/

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