To clarify, I have never attacked PyTorch, on Twitter or otherwise.

What happened is that I was a target of online harassment campaign from 2017 to January 2021 (when it stopped abruptly), which originated from a PyTorch developer and took the form of frequent anonymous emails (or messages on social networks) with insults and threats. The thread you link to below is me complaining about the harassment campaign and calling for civility.

Some frameworks fans can be extremely toxic, e.g. creating anonymous accounts on HN for the purpose of bashing one framework or one person.

Are you referring to Chollet? He does come off as arrogant at times.

I had some hopes when Keras dropped the other backends and just became part of TensorFlow 2.0, for which I had high hopes too, but I think it just made it worse. I've lost all interest, and getting increasingly disillusioned by TensorFlow for each day.

based on the tweet you provided as evidence I find your comment more of a "malicious attack" actually

Do you have a link?

I wouldn't describe that as "maliciously attacked PyTorch"

Sure, yet that's one tweet and his tone is pretty telling if you ask me. Disregard if you don't believe, I'm not making it up

I encourage you to reread the Twitter posts in question, your post here, and evaluate, as if you were a disinterested third party, if it still makes sense.

Based on the evidence you provided the only malicious attack is your own.

> Woke up to 3 new hate emails from PyTorch fanboys, a new record (was this coordinated?).

> I got my very first hate message in 2017, from a PyTorch fan, and it has been a recurring thing since. The degree of toxicity of that community is insane.

> It's exhausting.

> If you are a Keras user, I beg you: never behave like these people. Don't be a jerk. Don't harass anyone. Not that I've had reports of that ever happening.

> Just be cool. Build great things. Help others.

> If you are a PyTorch fan: please leave me alone. My work is not related to you. You don't need to feel threatened by my work.

> I'm just doing the best I can. I've been at it for 5 years, it has been a lot of work.

> So please leave me alone, and leave the Keras & TF team alone.

> Also remember that I am not Keras. Keras is backed by a team of awesome folks, and by a community of 400,000 users & contributors. Keras is a collective project, built by many, serving the needs of many. I merely started it, a long time ago. Attacking me won't help you.

> I've never witnessed any issue with any other community. Not once. MXNet, Caffe, sklearn, you name it. Zero. But the PyTorch community is something special.

> PyTorch fanboys

> But the PyTorch community is something special

The context and request for civility makes sense and makes it look less like and attack in context. Implying that it's some characteristic of pytorch users is a bit more damning. Trolls are out there, I don't think it's using a particular deep learning framework that makes them more trollish, implying otherwise isn't constructive.