Orion Browser by Kagi

Re:Orion Browser by Kagi by ochronus on Monday November 27, 2023 @11:58PM (#38442494)

I had the same experience. Even if uBlock Origin kind of works, somehow it doesn't block the same number of ads as it does with other browsers, I wonder why. Same uBlock Origin version, same filters enabled, fewer ads blocked on Orion. I used this site for example to test: https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock.html - scores 65% on orion and 99% on other browsers

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Re:Orion Browser by Kagi by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @01:24AM (#38442986)

I'm getting 99% on Orion with their content blockers and uBlock Origin (default lists only).

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Re:Orion Browser by Kagi by jostyee on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @08:25AM (#38445438)

The official documentation doesn't recommend this: https://help.kagi.com/orion/browser-extensions/ublock-origin...

> For power users who want that last 10% with uBlock, we recommend disabling Orion's content blocker globally. Running both Orion blocking and uBlock may cause interference with each other.

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Re:Orion Browser by Kagi by Squarex on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @03:45AM (#38443695)

I get 100% with orion, ublock origin and nextdns combo. It's the only browser along with Firefox where I am able to get 100%.

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Re:Orion Browser by Kagi by Beijinger on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @04:26AM (#38444009)

99% of what? of ads not served? You are mixing ads and tracking and in the end, you can be tracked because you are still unique:

With my heavily, via plug-ins, privacy focused firefox I get 99%.

With https://www.amiunique.org/fingerprint I get:

Yes! You are unique among the 2206539 fingerprints in our entire dataset.

PS: with my vanilla Chrome - I use several browsers, for banking and buying plane tickets I always recommend a vanilla one - I get 47% with many things blocked. Is this thing working correclty? I just checked my hosts file and it is vanilla too. I used to have a large hosts file but this is just inconvenient since it breaks sites. I don't understand why so many things may be blocked in my chrome browser.

PPS: I wanted to give it a try in https://browsershots.org/ Is this site defunct? Whata pity.

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Re:Orion Browser by Kagi by autoexec on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @06:46AM (#38444741)

> in the end, you can be tracked because you are still unique

Unique isn't a bad thing really. The trick is to regularly be unique in a different way. I'd rather each tab have a unique fingerprint than simply trust that there's nothing about my browser/device that could identify me. There is an ever growing list of data points your browser makes available and a lot of time, money, and research that goes into finding fingerprinting techniques.

I agree it's good to have a locked down browser for most things and other browsers for websites that you can't get working with everything blocked. Brave is worth a try before you hand your browsing history over directly to Google with chrome or to MS with edge.

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Re:Orion Browser by Kagi by lolc on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @08:50AM (#38445645)

> Unique isn't a bad thing really. The trick is to regularly be unique in a different way.

This perspective is new to me, and very interesting. If it's intractable to know which parts of the finger could change, the fingerprinting becomes useless.

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Re:Orion Browser by Kagi by ochronus on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @03:21AM (#38456889)

99% as a score of this reproducible ad blocker test. You can see the individual tests on the site. I'm not saying it's a gold standard or anything, just a tool I happen to use. And you're right, passive tracking is a b.tch :)

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