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Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by tuukkah on Monday November 27, 2023 @08:18PM (#38441052)
At least some Tesla workers do want the collective agreement (without it, they have little protection against the whims of Elon).
Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by AnthonyMouse on Monday November 27, 2023 @08:46PM (#38441254)
> without it, they have little protection against the whims of Elon

What stops them from quitting at any time, or not working for him to begin with?

Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by Hikikomori on Monday November 27, 2023 @09:16PM (#38441482)
Nothing. Just like nothing stops the ones that do want a collection agreement as they work for Tesla and have join the union. There's no requirement for a majority wanting it or not.
Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @12:31AM (#38442683)
It's not a question of any majority. If you don't want to work for Elon then... just don't. There are many other employers. He can't force you to work for $2/hour regardless of whether or not there is any collective bargaining agreement when you could get more than that across the street.
Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by Hikikomori on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @07:29AM (#38444983)
They are employees, members of a union, so the union has the right to demand a collective agreement. Tesla has the right to not sign it, but we have the right to strike enshrined in our constitution and sympathy strikes are legal.
Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by Spivak on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @12:06PM (#38448011)
I'm curious about your views.

* Is there any place for government to have labor laws at all? Because that argument applies to everything from pay, nondiscrimination, and safety.

* Do you not see unions as a market force? Government generally does more to hinder unions than support them and the laws on the books in most countries are there so naive owners who didn't read their history don't do go and get themselves dragged out of their office by an angry mob.

Re:Tesla sues Swedish state agency over number plate blockage by adolph on Monday November 27, 2023 @08:21PM (#38441066)
live by the whim, die by the whim

maybe should follow their own whim