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Re:Nutrient found in beef and dairy improves immune response... by dade_ on Monday November 27, 2023 @12:54PM (#38435597)
I did learn something interesting about red meat travelling to South America. so the story is red meat and cancer, people that consume a lot more red meat tend to have more cancer. Brazil and Argentina are favourite examples. Except no one seems to take an account how they prepare red meat.

A churrasco or asado is a full day event. It starts with wood, and they get a fire going, and this last for hours and is a big social event. In other words hanging around wood smoke, now I can picture something that’s not red meat that could cause cancer in this scenario, but that never seems to bother researchers. They got the result they wanted and publish.

Re:Nutrient found in beef and dairy improves immune response... by oooyay on Monday November 27, 2023 @02:26PM (#38436950)
I can buy some of that. Burn pits in active war zones are a known source of cancer, half being in a constant vicinity of something burning and the other half being the properties of the aerosols produced by the thing being burned. That's to say, if the wood is treated it'll be more dangerous than seasoned wood.

When a family member was diagnosed with cancer I was warned heavily about the difference between cooked meat and charred meat. Charring is linked to cancer where cooked meat is a bit more up in the air.

Re:Nutrient found in beef and dairy improves immune response... by heyoni on Monday November 27, 2023 @10:31PM (#38441990)
But is it the charred meat then or the charring process that causes cancer?
Re:Nutrient found in beef and dairy improves immune response... by oooyay on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @01:04AM (#38442862)
Re:Nutrient found in beef and dairy improves immune response... by potatopatch on Monday November 27, 2023 @01:27PM (#38436084)
That's not really conclusive about anything as not all studies are done in South America..

Looking into pork for example, it is recommended as an alternative because it seems to have a lower incidence of many cancer types in studies and it's a great meat to smoke.

Re:Nutrient found in beef and dairy improves immune response... by djtango on Monday November 27, 2023 @01:27PM (#38436094)
interesting.

Teochew people eat a lot of (from my anecdotal experience) and we don't have the same culture of charcoal burning our meat. I wonder whether a similar comparison could work for South East vs other parts of the Chinese diaspora...

Re:Nutrient found in beef and dairy improves immune response... by monero-xmr on Monday November 27, 2023 @01:32PM (#38436167)
I avoid grilled and smoked meat because it seems very obvious to me that infusing meat with carcinogens would be bad for you. I’ve read that colon cancer is elevated in youth and I have a hunch that the widespread grilling and smoking culture has played a part.