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Re:Struggles with the Continuum by xanderlewis on Monday November 27, 2023 @11:26AM (#38434265)
Of course there’s a distinction between a map and the thing it’s a map of. But they’re both parts of reality.
Re:Struggles with the Continuum by samus on Monday November 27, 2023 @12:42PM (#38435404)
It's also perfectly possible to draw maps of places that don't exist in reality, i.e., that only exist in somebody's brain.
Re:Struggles with the Continuum by xanderlewis on Monday November 27, 2023 @02:39PM (#38437126)
A good point. So the real numbers exist in the same sense that anything else they might describe does.

My original point was really a comment on the way that the subject is often taught: the real number system is not introduced as some arbitrary set of rules that is as good as any other (though of course it is); it is introduced as if it were as incontrovertible an idea as, say… integer addition. I don’t think it is. It can perfectly well be argued that it makes sense and is useful, but its naturality is another matter. I personally find the leap from R to C less controversial than that from Q to R.

Re:Struggles with the Continuum by samus on Monday November 27, 2023 @05:05PM (#38439086)
Yes, I agree. Real numbers are a quite nebulous construct for which the need is a bit hard to see. Complex numbers are basically a hack to solve quadratic equations in all cases.