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Re:AI system self-organises to develop features of brains of... by meindnoch on Friday November 24, 2023 @05:26AM (#38402414)
Define "playing God".
Re:AI system self-organises to develop features of brains of... by vouaobrasil on Friday November 24, 2023 @05:32AM (#38402452)
Playing God: creating technology or inventions that are far beyond our control, or that will have unintended consequences that have the potential to cause significant material or psychological damage to a large proportion of humanity that cannot be reversed. Such technology is of the type that despite attempts to control it, it proliferates, and it would proliferate under a variety of economic and political models so that there is hardly any way to stop it except complete physical destruction.
Re:AI system self-organises to develop features of brains of... by TeMPOraL on Friday November 24, 2023 @05:48AM (#38402603)
Solution is simple: take it step by step, so that we deploy technologies/inventions that are only ever so slightly beyond our control. Learning means making mistakes; we can control the magnitude, but ultimately, the only way to not make mistakes is to never do anything at all.
Re:AI system self-organises to develop features of brains of... by vouaobrasil on Friday November 24, 2023 @05:55AM (#38402643)
We have never applied this type of deployment so far. For example, fossil fuels -- we still can't control it.

I'd argue that it's much better to live a simple life more connected to nature, even if that means more diseases and more manual labor.

We might have a comfortable life in some ways, but this life is at the expense of the DEATH of millions of nonhuman organisms so we do not deserve it.

Re:AI system self-organises to develop features of brains of... by TeMPOraL on Friday November 24, 2023 @06:22AM (#38402811)
> We have never applied this type of deployment so far. For example, fossil fuels -- we still can't control it.

Let's not forget that pretty much everything you consider nice and beneficial about modern existence - from advanced healthcare to opportunities to entertainment, even things as trivial as toilet paper or tissues or packaging or paint - is built on top of petrochemical engineering. Sure, we're dealing with some serious second-order consequences, but if we overcome them, we'll end up better than when we had "simple life more connected to nature".

> I'd argue that it's much better to live a simple life more connected to nature, even if that means more diseases and more manual labor.

Hard disagree.

> this life is at the expense of the DEATH of millions of nonhuman organisms

It's not like nature cares either way. Sure, we may be accelerating the disappearance of whole species, but even then we're more humane at the killing. It's really hard to do worse than nature, where every multicellular organism is constantly fighting against starvation, disease, or being assaulted and eaten alive.

Re:AI system self-organises to develop features of brains of... by nmeofthestate on Friday November 24, 2023 @07:26AM (#38403274)
>For example, fossil fuels

You're effectively arguing, on a website, that humanity should not have started the industrial revolution.

Re:AI system self-organises to develop features of brains of... by sheepdestroyer on Friday November 24, 2023 @06:06AM (#38402713)
I have the feeling that concepts like money and property fit your description, with the addditional detail that much more than humanity has been impacted. I also feel that AI has a pretty good chance to be the only way to revert the significant material / psychological damages that have already been caused by those. It seems short sighted to not weight in the whole of our "playing god" so far, and dismiss the idea that we might better defer-to/get-help-from a different intelligence at this point.
Re:AI system self-organises to develop features of brains of... by contravariant on Friday November 24, 2023 @10:11AM (#38404750)
So, inventions like money?