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Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf... by colordrops on Thursday November 23, 2023 @03:17PM (#38397058)
> If we can make something that appears to be able to mimic human responses, isn't that AGI in practice even if it's not in principle?

I'm confused by this. What's the difference? Is there a measure other than how well it "mimics" a human? If a robot is indistinguishable from a human, what other measure would make it different in practice vs principle?

Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf... by appplication on Thursday November 23, 2023 @03:26PM (#38397147)
And if that’s the definition of AGI we’re going by, we’re in no danger of it murdering us all. Imagine thinkjng GPT4 was somehow capable of really any harm at all.

It’s also just incredible failure of risk assessment. Global warming is the real and pressing threat, and it’s here right now. Not sentient murderous AI. But it’s easier to dream about a threat that doesn’t exist than one that does because you can still imagine a perfect scenario in which you prevent it. Whoops.

Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf... by josephg on Thursday November 23, 2023 @04:14PM (#38397634)
> Imagine thinkjng GPT4 was somehow capable of really any harm at all.

There’s plenty of new ways you could use chatgpt to mess with society. For example, apparently you only need 8% of people to be talking about something for it to seem like a mass movement. It would be pretty easy for a malicious actor to use LLMs to flood the internet with some new - but fake - story or motivated point of view and kickstart a “mass movement” that way. Or use something like that to heavily influence politics. That might already be happening. We have no idea.

Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf... by RandomLensman on Thursday November 23, 2023 @04:38PM (#38397865)
It would also be easy for a benevolent actor to counter-flood etc.
Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf... by josephg on Thursday November 23, 2023 @06:28PM (#38398945)
Sure; but multiple AI generated "mass movements" don't cancel each other out.
Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf... by RandomLensman on Friday November 24, 2023 @03:18AM (#38401684)
Who knows? We never had a world with a huge supply of mass movement attachment points.
Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf... by appplication on Thursday November 23, 2023 @05:50PM (#38398576)
And no amount of well intended AI ethics or prompt denial would stop this sort of malevolent activity.
Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf... by pixl97 on Thursday November 23, 2023 @08:56PM (#38399955)
>But it’s easier to dream about a threat that doesn’t exist than one that does because you can still imagine a perfect scenario in which you prevent it

Science fiction invents scenarios that once created cannot be stopped quite often. The "don't create a black hole on earth unless you want to be in the black hole" effect.