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Re:Developer account removed by Apple – $108,878 frozen by quickthrowman on Thursday November 23, 2023 @01:33PM (#38395908)
It sounds like you have no idea what money laundering actually is, to be honest. Money laundering is concealing the source of illegally obtained money.

You use stolen credit cards to buy gift cards (or just defraud people to obtain gift cards). This is dirty money.

You pay it to yourself on the App Store by getting an app listed and buying it. Apple then deposits money (minus their 30% cut) in your bank account, which is clean money.

How is that not money laundering?

Re:Developer account removed by Apple – $108,878 frozen by matwood on Thursday November 23, 2023 @03:22PM (#38397108)
The stolen CCs are not part of the laundering (that's just fraud/theft). I think it's easier to talk about laundering cash from drug sales. You buy an Apple Gift card with the cash. Use the gift card to buy jewels in an app you control, and now you have cleaned your drug money.

The challenge with doing this at scale on the App Store is the account requirement. Apple also likely has controls on how many gift cards you can redeem over a period of time. You also need an app that looks plausibly functional. The amount of money people supposedly spend on gems or whatever will help though.

Re:Developer account removed by Apple – $108,878 frozen by moralestapia on Thursday November 23, 2023 @01:38PM (#38395956)
That's the dumbest way one could launder money. You left a trace everywhere and the vast majority of people with money taken away from their accounts are going to tell their bank that same week. You literally triggered all the alarms. Then it gets sent to your Apple developer account? The one that has your face, your name, your bank details, etc...

Wtf man, use your neurons a bit.

Re:Developer account removed by Apple – $108,878 frozen by jholman on Thursday November 23, 2023 @01:52PM (#38396114)
Wait, your argument is

"this suspension by Apple couldn't be due to Apple catching them laundering money"

because

"this isn't money laundering"

because

"if someone laundered money this way, they would get caught"?

Do you not understand that you just destroyed your own argument?

And I have inside knowledge that you're wrong at least much of the time. This particular case, I have no idea, but extremely competent teams inside FAANG believe that there are many billions of dollars of attempted money laundering of this form, that they catch and stop.

Re:Developer account removed by Apple – $108,878 frozen by quickthrowman on Thursday November 23, 2023 @01:44PM (#38396033)
> That's the dumbest way one could launder money.

So now you’re admitting the scenario I proposed is money laundering.

Have a nice day :)

Re:Developer account removed by Apple – $108,878 frozen by moralestapia on Thursday November 23, 2023 @02:00PM (#38396197)
It's not, that's just regular racketeering.

You didn't even get the nuance of my sentence there, it's like if you draw a computer in a piece of paper and you tell me "it is a computer", then I tell you "welp, then that's the shittiest computer I've ever seen" and you're like "hurr durr, you see, it's a computer". Lol.

I can now see clearly why you are just unable to grasp the concepts discussed here. :)