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Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now?

Is Bitcoin dead now? FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried is in prison, Binance founder Changpeng Zhao pleads guilty to money laundering, and Bitcoin is mostly used for illegal activities, the energy usage is massive. How can I short this awful currency?
( 14 comments | 3 points | on HN )
Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by cableshaft on Thursday November 23, 2023 @11:49AM (#38394703)
Yep, bitcoin is totally dead. That's why its more than doubled in price over the past year, while Dow Jones is up a whopping 3% in the same time period (and a single bitcoin currently costs more than a single share of Dow Jones stock).
Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by hollerith on Thursday November 23, 2023 @11:56AM (#38394790)
Yes, totally dead with a market cap of only $724 billion, which is even lower than Tesla's market cap right now, and everyone knows Tesla is dead as a doorknob.
Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by keiferski on Thursday November 23, 2023 @10:29AM (#38393785)
Topics like this are a good example of why you should never trust HN's advice on crypto.

Bitcoin is up, considerably, in the last ±6 months. Centralized exchanges like FTX or Binance have always been more convenient than logical, and the effect of their "collapse" on the market as a whole will not last beyond the media's attention span.

P.S., it's not just used for illegal activities, but is in fact a vital part of remittences abroad in places without stable currencies.

Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by ps256 on Thursday November 23, 2023 @10:32AM (#38393816)
> Is Bitcoin dead now?

No, that's not how anything works. The point is that it's alive as long as someone is running a node.

Whether the price will move up or down in the future - I think it's naive to think that you can profitably speculate on its price movement (long or short).

Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by houseatrielah on Thursday November 23, 2023 @09:39AM (#38393218)
BTC has had a futures market for years. You're very brave to short BTC during the BlackRock ETF approval window.
Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by factorialboy on Thursday November 23, 2023 @11:02AM (#38394217)
> How can I short this awful currency?

I wouldn't until Jan 10th.

That's when they decide on Blackrock's (and several other) Bitcoin ETFs.

Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by flessner on Thursday November 23, 2023 @10:07AM (#38393514)
I wouldn't short it personally, but if you really want to you will most likely need a (crypto) broker that gives you access to leveraged trading and/or futures.
Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by pettycashstash2 on Thursday November 23, 2023 @09:32AM (#38393161)
A simple google search will provide plenty of guidance on how to short. My suggestion is just to not get involved in this
Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by yuppie_scum on Thursday November 23, 2023 @11:10AM (#38394291)
I guess it was a good way to extract value from gullible Redditors (and HN readers) but I think the gig is up.

It never made any sense.

Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by AnimalMuppet on Thursday November 23, 2023 @09:44AM (#38393244)
"The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent."

Personally, I wouldn't short it. I think it's dead (or rather, it was never really alive), but I wouldn't short it.

Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by t312227 on Thursday November 23, 2023 @10:41AM (#38393937)
no.

but they smell quite funny since many years ;))

Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by ALUC-inc on Thursday November 23, 2023 @09:41AM (#38393224)
It is quite possible
Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by pawelduda on Thursday November 23, 2023 @01:00PM (#38395507)
Yes it's more dead than ever before, experts agree

https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-obituaries/

Re:Ask HN: Is Bitcoin Dead Now? by jejeyyy77 on Thursday November 23, 2023 @03:06PM (#38396928)
lmao