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Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by cbsmith on Thursday November 23, 2023 @03:14AM (#38390601)
I wasn't trying to suggest they were similar.

It might be hard to imagine this, but it is possible that leading a company deploying billions of dollars might actually have a significantly larger potential impact on people's lives than a rogue cop.

Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by jmye on Friday November 24, 2023 @03:50PM (#38408148)
I find that answer hand-wavey. Which YC company has impacted any specific person’s life more directly than, say, Philip Brailsford?

I also think pretending you weren’t making a comparison is absurd - why post about the evils of big companies in this context if that were the case?

Saying “rich people are all bad and have hurt way more people” is specious. Implying that I can’t imagine it, when you are apparently incapable of being specific, is juvenile.

Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by cbsmith on Saturday November 25, 2023 @12:29PM (#38414906)
> Saying “rich people are all bad and have hurt way more people” is specious.

> Implying that I can’t imagine it, when you are apparently incapable of being specific, is juvenile.

I agree. I wasn't saying that, anymore than someone was saying "all cops are bad and have hurt way more people". I'm certainly not saying YCombinator or any of its companies have done something spectacularly bad. Besides that, the whole point in "bad cop who is let go without any harm to their future" metaphor would be about the subsequent work of any "bad employee" at YCombinator. I would point out though that this lack of transparency is why, is why neither you might not know of any misdeeds --and that's the problem.

OpenAI has access to massive amounts of capital & data, and has a pretty significant reach already, and it's just the beginning. Would it really be so absurd that Sam Altman couldn't have a far larger influence on the world, positive or negative, than a cop? If it is absurd, then we're either investing way too much in OpenAI or way too little in cops.

Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by cbsmith on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @06:16PM (#38452960)
Rewritten to actually be readable (and apologies for that):

I agree. I wasn't saying that, anymore than someone was saying "all cops are bad and have hurt way more people". I'm certainly not saying YCombinator or any of its companies have done something specifically bad. Besides that, the whole point in "bad cop who is let go without any harm to their future" metaphor, as applied to YCombinator, would be about the subsequent work of any "bad employee" at YCombinator. I would point out though that this lack of transparency is why neither you nor I might not know of any misdeeds --and that's the problem.

OpenAI has access to massive amounts of capital & data, and has a pretty significant reach already, and it's just the beginning. Would it really be so absurd that Sam Altman couldn't have a far larger influence on the world, positive or negative, than a cop? If it is absurd, then we're either investing way too much in OpenAI or way too little in cops.