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Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by Waterluvian on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @02:50PM (#38384207)
That’s a really good example of not being explicitly supportive. It’s an objective statement. If I said “Roy Sullivan is the best in the world at being struck by lightning” it may implicitly feel like I’m rooting for him. But I’m just stating a fact.

What would count?

“I think Roy Sullivan is the man to be struck an eighth time. He’s the best at it. I hope he succeeds.”

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Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by pests on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @02:58PM (#38384307)
Is it though?

When the fact is subjective to begin with?

I would even say “Roy Sullivan is the best in the world at being struck by lightning” is not a fact at all but an opinion.

And by giving an opinion you are passing judgement.

How can you claim saying something such as "Washington was the best president" is in some way a fact? Can you find it in reference books? Is it defined from the laws of nature? Does anyone even believe my quote?

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Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by Waterluvian on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:07PM (#38384423)
He held the world record, so I’m comfortable saying he was the best at it. If that’s not sufficient and we’re interested in being a semantic pedantic, that’s not a discussion that interests me.
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Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by pests on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @05:42PM (#38386226)
Still an opinion, sorry.
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Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by pests on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @10:38PM (#38388949)
To clarify some, "best" in “Roy Sullivan is the best in the world at being struck by lightning” is subjective.

Who cares that he got hit three times? Okay, he was hit the most times. That is a fact. I saw a video of a guy getting hit and he did it with grace and elegance - I think hes the best at getting hit. How is "something is best" ever a fact?

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Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by snickerbockers on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:11PM (#38384475)
So the statement is that Sam Altman is the best person in the world at getting fired?
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Re:Sam Altman's been fired before. The polarizing past of Op... by Waterluvian on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:33PM (#38384712)
Not sure. But it’s different from saying they support Altman’s endeavour in being the best at it.
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