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Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by rf15 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @02:16PM (#38383758)
Even by the standards of blind corp greed, that's a bad move - you want people to know your platform when they're done studying, so they can advocate for it in their jobs. Why would you destroy this revenue stream? Unless they have no longterm vision for VMware and just want to bleed it dry as quickly as possible.
Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by phpisthebest on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @02:52PM (#38384228)
Broadcom looks at Orcale and says "Can I have some of that business model please"...

They exist on legacy vendor lockin, and will milk customers until there is nothing left, which will take decades or more

Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by NikolaNovak on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:44PM (#38384837)
But to me, Oracle is the canonical example of getting nerds while they're young.

In university, I had access to Oracle databases, Oracle manuals, Oracle Linux, etc. Not through some special university approved lab set up - I could just go and download them. Even their acquired software like PeopleSoft etc.

I had NONE of that for DB2 or AIX, for example.

And their respective market share, I believe based on no evidence but strong belief, belies that strategy.

(disclaimer, I guess - I work for IBM, but ironically as an Oracle consultant... the early access really did work :-)

Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by phpisthebest on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:51PM (#38384918)
Many people have talked about this...

People do know that oracle has ALOT more software then their DB right?

I mean their DB is the least vendor lockin thing they sell.....

Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by NikolaNovak on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @06:41PM (#38386847)
Yes, as I said, I spent much of my life around oracle products. Most are freely downloadable for non production purposes.
Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by tsimionescu on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:18PM (#38384563)
Any student can download and use Oracle DBs and most other products for free legally right from Oracle's sites. This suggests that even Oracle understands how important this pipeline is.
Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by warriormonk5 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @02:17PM (#38383774)
Yeah that's the idea. They hold corporations hostage that are slow to move and increase prices.
Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by rrdharan on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:13PM (#38384498)
And it’s entirely plausible they make enough money from that to buy the next VMware in another decade or so to repeat the cycle. Sustainable bottom feeding as a strategy.
Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by mschuster91 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @04:10PM (#38385159)
> you want people to know your platform when they're done studying, so they can advocate for it in their jobs. Why would you destroy this revenue stream?

That was how Adobe ran for a looooong time, up until and including CS6. They didn't give a f..k about piracy beyond something that could trivially be circumvented by a keygen and a few well-placed /etc/hosts entries, and that was what made them the utterly dominant power in anything creative - people were used to years of working with Photoshop (a friend of mine started with photography at age 13!), and so they demanded from employers that they use Photoshop. Incidentally, that also was what kept Apple afloat before the iPod/iPhone days - Adobe stuff just worked fine on Apple hardware but was a nightmare on Windows, so people also demanded Macs for their work.

The advent of CC came once Adobe had achieved that lock-in and started milking its customers for all they were worth, and additionally they opened up a load of legitimate customers as well who didn't feel like dropping a few grand on Adobe stuff but who cares about 50$ a month?

Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by sturadnidge on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @06:56PM (#38387019)
I always thought of Sun as the canonical example of this… why did all the dotcom era startups burn so much cash on Sun hardware? Because that’s what was in the Universities!

But on the other hand, look at how that turned out :(

Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by dehrmann on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @10:19PM (#38388822)
This is different. Most student won't be exposed to datacenter management. It's really just system administrators who see this.
Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by ocdtrekkie on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @10:40PM (#38388971)
VMware is literally taught in schools. My college has a two course program in it.
Re:VMware is now part of Broadcom by callalex on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @11:53PM (#38389437)
That’s still entirely independent of what the school’s mainframes run on.