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Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by Lio on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:20AM (#38376486)
SUV adverts are just so deliberately weird. Somehow they get away with showing the streets being always empty as if it's permanently the World Cup Final on a Bank Holiday.

The truth is you'll probably be driving in traffic or crawling in a traffic jam… of which you are the cause. They'll never, ever show someone struggling to park one in a standard space at an urban supermarket.

Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by k99x55 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:47AM (#38376703)
SUVs should be banned. They are much more likely to kill when hitting pedestrians and cyclists. No reason for oversize overweight vehicles in our public spaces. Its a public health hazard.
Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by talldatethrow on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @09:19AM (#38379489)
Why not just ban all cars? Any car is a huge health hazard for pedestrians compared to a bike. But even bikes are dangerous. If we all walked, we'd be safer. Only delivery trucks from here on out!
Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by tinyspacewizard on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @10:40AM (#38380698)
Like most public policy issues, a balance needs to be struck. Typical SUV trips could easily be done in a lighter vehicle or even no vehicle at all.
Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by sentientslug on Friday November 24, 2023 @01:18AM (#38401090)
Moronic comment. Have you ever considered that some people have multiple children?
Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by tzs on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @05:28AM (#38377427)
Ads showing traffic jams could actually help promote large cars.

If it was a long crawl through a traffic jam every time I went to get groceries I'd be tempted to get a good sized garage ready freezer [1] and a larger car so I would only need to drive to the grocery store once or twice a month. There's a small grocery store within walking distance that is too expensive and doesn't have enough variety to be my main grocery store but would work for those things that won't keep for a month.

[1] A normal home freezer that is part of a fridge/freezer is typically is designed to work in a room around 55-110℉ (13-43℃) and a normal stand alone home freezer typically works down to 32℉ (0℃). A "garage ready" freezer is one designed to work when the room temperature is 0-110℉ (-18-43℃) so if you don't have room in the house you can put it in your garage.

Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by berdario on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @08:57AM (#38379183)
Why would you buy a car tailored specifically for buying groceries? Especially if the prospect is unappealing traffic jams when going to the store?

Since the beginning of the pandemic most supermarkets have a decent delivery service. I pay 1£ for delivery (4h window) and when I was in the EU, my store of choice gave delivery for free if you purchased some specific items.

Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by dharmab on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @11:33AM (#38381419)
If I wasn't a car enthusiast 99% of my driving would be to a grocery store, hardware store or a clinic/doctor's office.

I think my ideal utility vehicle would be an electric van...

Grocery delivery in my area is expensive ($10 or so) and they usually don't give you everything you ordered. My annual cost to own a car is under $1000 including gas, so it doesn't save much money to ditch the car.

Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by i_am_jl on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @09:33AM (#38379702)
>Why would you buy a car tailored specifically for buying groceries?

For many people moving stuff from shops to their home is their primary use case for an automobile. Why wouldnt they buy a car tailored for that purpose?

Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by berdario on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @12:59PM (#38382615)
My point is that several of us got cars before grocery delivery services were widespread and common.

If you have a sunken investment, then it makes sense to use your already-depreciated car for grocery... But otherwise, assuming you have access to affordable delivery service, you might as well save yourself the effort and cost, and only use a car for the other needs in your life.

YMMV of course, you could go for a smaller and cheaper to run car, but if you have a family you'd probably need 4 comfortable seats...

Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by nradov on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @01:15PM (#38382870)
Grocery delivery services are crap. They have problems with improper substitutions and low quality produce.

Plus Costco doesn't deliver, and that's where many of us do our bulk shopping with large vehicles. (You can order from Costco through Instacart in some areas but it's one of the worst of the delivery services.)

Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by xracy on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @12:22PM (#38382075)
> Ads showing traffic jams could actually help promote large cars.

This is high on the list of BS claims I have seen. If it were true, why wouldn't car companies use it to sell cars?

Re:Toyota SUV adverts banned in UK on environmental grounds by duxup on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @05:55AM (#38377609)
> Somehow they get away with showing the streets being always empty

Does anyone show vehicles in a lot of traffic in their advertising?