Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu...
by jakey_bakey on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:18AM
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It wasn't necessarily groupthink - there was profound pressure from team Sam to sign that petition. What's going to happen to your career when you were one of the 200 who held out initially?
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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu...
by concordDance on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:21AM
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Isn't that one of the causes of group think?
Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu...
by Kathula on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @04:36AM
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Folding for pressure and group think is different things imo. You can be very aware you are folding for pressure, but doing it because it's the right/easy thing to do. While group think is more a phenomenon you are not aware of at all.
Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu...
by dereg on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:32AM
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There weren’t 200 holdouts. It was like 5 AM over there. I don’t know why you are surprised that people who work at OpenAI would want to work at OpenAI, esp over Microsoft?
Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu...
by hef19898 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:20AM
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Go work somewhere else? The reason being you din't like that amount of drama?
Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu...
by ben_w on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:28AM
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> What's going to happen to your career when you were one of the 200 who held out initially?
Anthropic formed from people who split from OpenAI, and xAI in response to either the company or ChatGPT, so people would have plenty of options.
If the staff had as little to go on as the rest of us, then the board did something that looked wild and unpredictable, which is an acute employment threat all by itself.
Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu...
by voster on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @06:04AM
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That burns bridges with people in OpenAI
People underestimate the effects of social pressure, and losing social connections. Ilya voted for Sam's firing, but was quickly socially isolated as a result
That's not to say people didn't genuinely feel committed to Sam or his leadership. Just that they also took into account that the community is relatively small and people remember you and your actions
Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu...
by mcosta on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:58AM
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How do you know that?
Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu...
by ssnistfajen on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @04:40AM
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They can just work somewhere else with relative ease. Some OpenAI employees on Twitter said they were being bombarded by recruiters throughout until tonight's resolution. People have left OpenAI before and they are doing just fine.