Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe...
by jacquesm on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @09:29PM
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Well, if she was working with the Chinese she couldn't have done a more effective job.
So I'm not sure how this all integrates in her head but you break the glass in break-the-glass moments, not before, it's a one-shot thing.
Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe...
by lucubratory on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @09:59PM
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She was working with the Pentagon, to try and make sure there isn't a serious issue between the US & China on AI, which requires actual engagement instead of just blind nationalism if you want the Chinese to listen to anything you have to say. I think it would be a really bad idea to assume that she just hasn't thought this through. We just don't have enough information.
Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe...
by jacquesm on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @10:07PM
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I have some indication that she hasn't thought it through, that all started last Friday. If she has thought it through I hope that she can show her homework because it kind of matters.
Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe...
by comp_throw7 on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @09:36PM
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See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38373572 for why this might have qualified (if the story as presented is accurate).
Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe...
by jacquesm on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @09:38PM
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Thin ice at best. And if it was she should come out and say it or leak the minutes where that was established as the reason that Sam had to go, that the fall-out would be worth it and that Microsoft could be contained.
I think any action to immediately destroy OpenAI should have been preceded by being on-track to create AGI and strong indications that it was not going to benefit humanity, as the charter implies. Anything less and it's just a powerplay. But what is the point of having a nice fat red button if you never get to push it?
I don't know why she chose to publicly execute Altman, there just isn't enough information to say for sure. It probably wasn't a specific, imminent safety concern like "Our new frontier model was way more capable than we were expecting and attempted a breakout that nearly succeeded during internal red teaming", according to the new CEO it wasn't anything like that. The new CEO has heard their reason, but is putting a lot of pressure on them to put that reason in writing for some reason. I don't know why, we just don't have enough information.
But basically, she is a very qualified person on the exact topic you are concerned about and has devoted her career to solving that problem. I wouldn't write off what she's doing or has done here as "She didn't consider that China exists".