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Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by TerrifiedMouse on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @08:36PM (#38373443)
This is something you don’t get. What happens to the for-profit arm of OpenAI is not her problem, her loyalty lies with the non-profit arm’s charter (and not even the organization itself).

She is doing her job to uphold the mission of the organization.

Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by nmfisher on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @11:52PM (#38374866)
This is exactly correct and so many people just don’t get it. The non-profit owns the for-profit, not the other way around. When the goals of the for-profit clash with the goals of the non-profit, the for-profit has to yield.
Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by sumedh on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @08:46PM (#38373535)
> What happens to the for-profit arm of OpenAI is not her problem

Who pays the bill for the non profit arm, wasnt that the for profit arm?

Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by TerrifiedMouse on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @08:51PM (#38373591)
The for-profit arm was always meant to be subservient to the non-profit arm - the latter practically owns the former.

The important thing for the non-profit arm is the mission, its own existence is secondary.

Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by sumedh on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @10:39PM (#38374473)
> The important thing for the non-profit arm is the mission, its own existence is secondary.

So OpenAI should just shut down because the charitable donations were not enough to keep the lights on.

Re:Before Altman’s ouster, OpenAI’s board was divided and fe... by TerrifiedMouse on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @12:46AM (#38375147)
If they lack money they could always scale back operations.

Also running the for-profit arm the way Altman did isn’t the only way.

A more reasonable CEO would do what he/she can to make money without running afoul of the charter. Yes, it will be less profit - and sometimes no profit at all - but that’s the way it should be in a non-profit organization.

OpenAI used to be an organization that dabbled with various AI technologies. Anyone remember their DOTA2 bot? Before Altman turned it into all about commercializing their LLM - going so far as to try to lobby congress to create laws, in the name of safety of course, to hobble any upstart competition.