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Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by gardenhedge on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @03:01AM (#38360745)
An argument could be made that sports - and a sports organization - helps society
Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by passion__desire on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @03:14AM (#38360829)
Fast fashion and fashion industry in general is useless to society. But rich jobless people need a place to hangout so they create an activity to justify.
Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by achenet on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @06:01AM (#38362060)
useless to society...

fashion allows people to optimize their appearance so as to get more positive attention from others. Or, put more crudely, it helps people look good so they can get laid.

Not sure that it's net positive for society as a whole, but individual humans certainly benefit from the fashion industry. Ask anyone who has ever received a compliment on their outfit.

This is true for rich people as well as not so rich people - having spent some time working as a salesman at H&M, I can tell you that lower income members of society (like, for example, H&M employees making minimum wage) are very happy to spend a fair percentage of their income on clothing.

Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by dheavy on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @06:48AM (#38362392)
It goes even deeper than getting laid if you study Costume History and its psychological importance.

It is a powerful medium of self-expression and social identity yes, deeply rooted in human history where costumes and attire have always signified cultural, social, and economic status.

Drawing from tribal psychology, it fulfills an innate human desire for belonging and individuality, enabling people to communicate their affiliation, status, and personal values through their choice of clothing.

It has always been and will always be part of humanity, even if its industrialization in Capitalistic societies like ours have hidden this fact.

OP's POV is just a bit narrow, that's all.

Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by atq2119 on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @08:13AM (#38363196)
Clothing is important in that sense, but fashion as a changing thing and especially fast fashion isn't. I suppose it can be a nice hobby for some, but for society as a whole it's at best a wasteful zero-sum pursuit.
Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by mensetmanusman on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @08:49AM (#38363545)
we can correlate now that the more fast fashion there is the less people are coupling though...
Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by passion__desire on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:02PM (#38366393)
There was a tweet by Elon which said that we are optimizing for short term pleasure. OnlyFans exists just for this. Pleasure industry creates jobs as well but do we need so much of it?
Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by dheavy on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @06:43AM (#38362350)
> fashion industry in general is useless to society > rich jobless people need a place to hangout

You're talking about an industry that generates approximately $1.5 trillion globally, employing more than 60 million people globally, from multi-disciplinary skills in fashion design, illustration, web development, e-commerce, AI, digital marketing.

Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by passion__desire on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @08:27AM (#38363317)
well, web3 created lot of economic activity and jobs, it doesn't mean it is useful.
Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by quickthrower2 on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @03:10AM (#38360809)
As does a peer to peer taxi company.
Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by renewiltord on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @03:30AM (#38360959)
Indeed, and one for ChatGPT.
Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by arrosenberg on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:44PM (#38367061)
Sure you can, but I wouldn't make that argument about the NFL. They exist to enrich 30 owners and Roger Goodell. They don't even live up to their own mission statement - most fans deride it as the No Fun League.