I can only speak for myself, but I have two Teslas and I'll never go back to another car after this point unless it's substantially better. I don't have any issues with mine and the speed and technology never gets old. Daily driving a car that beats super cars in 0-60, the quarter mile and tops out at 200 mph is a pretty awesome experience (and combined with the self driving, audio system, and giant screen with maps, and a GPU that plays Steam games).

See, that's what I'm talking about ;)

So most Tesla owners you speak to have a Tesla Model S Plaid?

Also have a Y. Loved it so much I got a plaid too

To explain, the TÜV in germany checks every two years all cars for safety relevant issues and without to pass this check you can't use your car until the issues are fixed. So, this report is about every second Tesla 3 that drives on german roads. Not just one batch, not only some hundred ones, not some special ones, EVERY SECOND MODEL 3 that is rolling on the roads in Germany.

I hear only but good reports from people that are iphone fans. Thats normal, no one want to admit himself that he have done not a good deal.

Interesting. I'm an Android fan though.

Joking aside could there be a difference in the German Tesla factories vs. other countries? I'm digging into knitty-gritty, but maybe because it just doesn't match real life reviews.

I have a model Y and it's easily the best car I have ever owned. But that doesn't say anything about how it will be in 5 years.

This isn't exactly a new claim, and it's backed up by Tesla's own claimed strategy of vertical integration.

Many of the sensors in a $200,000 Maybach and a $20,000 Civic all come from the same battle tested catalogues from a few companies (like Bosch, Continental, etc.)

Tesla prides themselves on replacing those battle tested components with in-house alternatives with no where near the widespread applications or history to shake out bugs in order to save themselves some money.

I'm not sure why people think the EV part is what makes Tesla's margins when we've commoditized ICEs to the moon and back: it's the making a cheaper car part that does. You don't get to do that for free.

It’s the taking out lidar, taking out ultra sonic sensors and scamming people with FSD.

...silently replacing the CPO program with a used program and shipping out cars with toenail clippings, launching AP2 with less reliability than AP1 because Mobileye fired them as a customer, shipping non-automotive grade screens that started leaking in cars...

Yeah there's a laundry list but in my experience the people who comment like what I replied to will have excuses for all that

The only technique that ever gets some semblance of acceptance is using Tesla's own claims as proof (since everything else is an anti-Elon conspiracy theory)

omg they never had lidar