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Re:Tesla Model 3 fault rate is the highest of any car: report by TheDong on Monday November 20, 2023 @11:07PM (#38359051)
The comparison is between old car manufacturers who have been perfecting building standardized parts for 10s of years, and between tesla who is still figuring that part out too.

Both VW and Tesla have been making EV-specific components for about the same amount of time (not long), but VW has something like 70 years more experience than Tesla in making brakes (edit: integrating brakes into cars, fine)

Re:Tesla Model 3 fault rate is the highest of any car: report by CtrlAltmanDel on Monday November 20, 2023 @11:49PM (#38359406)
> VW has something like 70 years more experience than Tesla in making brakes.

And assembling brakes

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/another-tesla-is-delivere...

Re:Tesla Model 3 fault rate is the highest of any car: report by inferiorhuman on Monday November 20, 2023 @11:15PM (#38359137)
VW specs brakes that are built by companies (e.g. ATE/Teves, Girling, Brembo) with those 70 years of experience. Tesla, famously, brought all sorts of complex assemblies (e.g. seats) in house. So I'm curious with the situation is with the Model Three.

I can sorta understand wanting to bring something bespoke like seats in house, but friction brakes are commodity hardware. If Tesla is trying to DIY friction brakes that seems like a colossal waste of time.

Re:Tesla Model 3 fault rate is the highest of any car: report by wilg on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:39AM (#38359807)
I'm pretty sure they don't make their own brakes.
Re:Tesla Model 3 fault rate is the highest of any car: report by CharlesW on Monday November 20, 2023 @11:12PM (#38359099)
Tesla makes brakes?
Re:Tesla Model 3 fault rate is the highest of any car: report by TheDong on Monday November 20, 2023 @11:13PM (#38359117)
Whether it makes them or not, it is integrating them into the car, and VW also obviously has more experience integrating brakes into a full car.

I'm sure you could have read "make" charitably as "making and/or integrating brakes into cars" if you wanted to.