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Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by fullshark on Monday November 20, 2023 @07:25PM (#38357051)
Put me in the "Ilya didn't realize what firing Altman / demoting Brockman would actually mean and is trying to correct his mistake" camp.
Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by tsunamifury on Monday November 20, 2023 @08:46PM (#38357757)
Then He should be fired for incompetence and never given a leadership position ever again.

I don’t even like Sam but jeeze. Know the score what a fool.

Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by nonethewiser on Monday November 20, 2023 @09:42PM (#38358318)
Exactly. Too many people arguing incompetence as if its a valid excuse.

Imagine its even true - that they werent his reasons and he was just told them. He voted to fire him and then executed the firing despite not agreeing with the reasons himself? Completely inexcusable even in the bizarre scenario that its true.

Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by skygazer on Monday November 20, 2023 @08:48PM (#38357783)
This could well be, but I still struggle to grasp it. He seemed so much smarter. Were they manipulative or beguiling? Does he cave to the merest social pressure? And that Quora CEO should have know such flimsy excuses were BS and this would be a firestorm. I’ve never seen group think so powerful, outside of junior devs and elementary school students. I’m generally not a conspiracy theorist, and I have no good candidate conspiracies in mind, but this situation feels so extraordinary that it practically begs for a shadowy figure with bags of cash.
Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by threeseed on Monday November 20, 2023 @09:34PM (#38358250)
> This could well be, but I still struggle to grasp it. He seemed so much smarter

This isn't about intelligence but about business experience.

Re:OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sa... by skygazer on Monday November 20, 2023 @09:48PM (#38358372)
Oh, I don’t know, when most adults are so inexperienced, they’re typically timid before committing monumental and irrevocable acts. I mean, granted, given the strength of his aptitudes, perhaps he’s not as well rounded, with narrower range of life experiences. Still, the red flags would be hard to ignore. Was this like a Milgram conformance to authority situation? Either way, there were so many people on and off the board, and allowed to dwindle to the point that a quorum was a mere 4 people. They treated it like a toothless advisory board. It’s like letting your kids babysit themselves in an armory.