Re:Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
by lolinder on Monday November 20, 2023 @04:29PM
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> Innocent until proven guilty though is the standard for legal punishment, not for public outrage.
It's still a useful barometer to calibrate one's own, individual participation in said public outrage.
For our own mental health, for our relationships with people around us, and to avoid being manipulated by dishonest people, it would behoove each and every one of us to adopt "innocent until proven guilty" regardless of whether we're legally compelled to do so.
Our required burden of proof can be lower than a court's but it should be higher than "unsubstantiated accusation by mentally ill family member that is uniformly denied by the rest of the family".
Re:Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO
by tsimionescu on Monday November 20, 2023 @04:35PM
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> Our required burden of proof can be lower than a court's but it should be higher than "unsubstantiated accusation by mentally ill family member that is uniformly denied by the rest of the family".
Very much agreed with this.
Innocent until proven guilty though is the standard for legal punishment, not for public outrage. It's a standard meant to constrain the use of violence against an individual, not to prevent others from adjusting their association to them.
Also, the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt". Nothing outside perhaps of mathematical truths could be proven "beyond a shadow of a doubt". There's always some outside chance one can imagine.