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Re:OpenAI's chaos does not add up by coffeebeqn on Monday November 20, 2023 @11:09AM (#38349882)
My main confusion is still what was the fireable offense ?
Re:OpenAI's chaos does not add up by dougmwne on Monday November 20, 2023 @11:21AM (#38350014)
It seems clear now that it was releasing GTPs store which the Quora CEO saw as a direct competitor to Poe.

Adam D'Angelo had a massive conflict of interest and should have resigned like Elon had done years earlier when Tesla started its own AI efforts.

Re:OpenAI's chaos does not add up by knd775 on Monday November 20, 2023 @12:26PM (#38351036)
Elon left the board because they wouldn't let him be the CEO. That's it.
Re:OpenAI's chaos does not add up by UnFleshedOne on Monday November 20, 2023 @11:44AM (#38350301)
I don't think that release was a surprise to the board, so wouldn't that happen before the release?
Re:OpenAI's chaos does not add up by kaoD on Monday November 20, 2023 @12:38PM (#38351256)
> I don't think that release was a surprise to the board

Unless this is exactly the kind of lack of "candor" and "break of communications with Sam" really meant, on the original accusations after the firing.

Either that or Adam wasn't paying attention (?), or told Sam not to, and Sam went ahead and still did it as a big fuck you to Adam.

Given how buggy GPTs are (you can't even set up actions with auth, "internal server error") that seems like a very hurried release. Maybe hurried enough so that the board didn't even see it coming.

Re:OpenAI's chaos does not add up by kijin on Monday November 20, 2023 @11:53AM (#38350401)
This kind of conflict of interest is usually not an issue when it comes to non-profits. Nonprofit boards are often filled with people who own businesses in the same field, especially if said nonprofit is meant to help promote or coordinate that field of business.

But OpenAI has a for-profit subsidiary. The more we focus on the business aspect of OpenAI, the more Adam's involvement in Poe looks like a conflict of interest. Perhaps this explains why Adam tried to form an alliance with board members who are inclined to focus more on OpenAI's original nonprofit mission. The more OpenAI positions itself as a nonprofit research group, the less problematic his conflict of interest will seem.

Re:OpenAI's chaos does not add up by gran_colombia on Monday November 20, 2023 @11:31AM (#38350138)
CEOs don't need an offense to be fired. They are entirely at will. The board can fire a CEO because it feels like it. The offense could be as muddy as 'we broadly dislike the current direction'.
Re:OpenAI's chaos does not add up by gran_colombia on Monday November 20, 2023 @11:31AM (#38350137)
CEOs don't need an offense to be fired. They are entirely at will. The board can fire a CEO because it feels like it. The offense could be as muddy as 'we broadly dislike the current direction'.