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Re:Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks b... by chimney on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:10AM (#38343763)
Isn't this expected? Nearly everyone who joined post ChatGPT was primarily financially motivated. What is more interesting is how many of the core research team stays.
Re:Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks b... by ah765 on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:28AM (#38343939)
This is actually pretty surprising to me, since a financially motivated person would normally wait until a better deal, and just collect their paycheck in the meantime.

There's also no guarantee that Altman will really start a new company, or be able to collect funding to hire everyone quickly. I wonder if these people are just very loyal to Sam.

Re:Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks b... by hurryer on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:41AM (#38344055)
Or they could be loyal to the e/acc cult.
Re:Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks b... by MattGaiser on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:37AM (#38344008)
> This is actually pretty surprising to me, since a financially motivated person would normally wait until a better deal, and just collect their paycheck in the meantime.

I imagine you need to signal that you want in on the deal by departing. Get founder equity.

Re:Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks b... by jatins on Monday November 20, 2023 @04:18AM (#38345260)
Even if he had started a new company, there was no way a dozen employees were getting founder equity for showing loyalty
Re:Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks b... by quietthrow on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:21AM (#38343876)
This. Very accurate. At the end of they day this is a battle between academics and capitalists and what they stand for. We generally know how this typically goes…
Re:Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks b... by simseye on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:39AM (#38344035)
I don't see many academics indulge in sensationalist doomsaying. That's the real difference here. SETI wouldn't and couldn't seek grants by proposing to contact murderous aliens.

I think academics have a general faith in goodwill of intelligence.Benevolence may be a convergent phenomenon. Maybe the mechanisms of reason themselves require empathy and goodness

Re:Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks b... by sudosysgen on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:42AM (#38344062)
Huh? There's plenty of AI doomerism amongst academics, see Bengio, Hinton, etc...
Re:Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks b... by simseye on Monday November 20, 2023 @03:02AM (#38344272)
Hinton makes cliched statements as if he's not given much thought to safety but feels obliged for whatever reason
Re:Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks b... by irrational on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:30AM (#38343952)
The capitalists run it into the ground while the academics stand around confused asking each other what happened?
Re:Emmett Shear becomes interim OpenAI CEO as Altman talks b... by exizt88 on Monday November 20, 2023 @03:05AM (#38344312)
How do you know that? Maybe they wanted to ship AI products at an unprecedented speed at the most prestigious AI company in the world.