Cruise co-founder and CEO Kyle Vogt resigns

Re:Cruise co-founder and CEO Kyle Vogt resigns by ssnistfajen on Monday November 20, 2023 @12:54AM (#38343034)

Witholding the footage was more than just a mistake. If they are being this dishonest over something that wasn't even entirely their fault, what else could they be hiding?

And no, most human drivers would easily detect a human being stuck under their vehicle within seconds.

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Re:Cruise co-founder and CEO Kyle Vogt resigns by SR2Z on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:06AM (#38343145)

A human driver would have probably been driving over the speed limit in this accident. All of these roads are 25 mph, and yet it's not uncommon to see traffic at 40 mph.

There's a good chance the woman would have been _killed outright_ if it hadn't been a Cruise. Are we willing to accept strange and inhuman failure modes if they overall lead to better safety than human drivers?

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Re:Cruise co-founder and CEO Kyle Vogt resigns by ssnistfajen on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:21AM (#38343318)

Please just read on exactly what happened in the accident before making comments about irrelevant frill like the speed limit:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/woman-run-autono...

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Re:Cruise co-founder and CEO Kyle Vogt resigns by SR2Z on Monday November 20, 2023 @12:04PM (#38350597)

I am pretty familiar with the accident. The speed limit is not irrelevant; the question should not be "did the car behave as a perfect human driver would have?"

It should be "was the eventual outcome better than what a human driver would have achieved in the same situation?"

It's not actually clear that a human driver would have done better, and given that the human driver in this incident did a hit-and-run and still hasn't been caught, assuming that is... questionable.

The safety record of these cars is actually quite good when you consider the environment and times of day they operate in.

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