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Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam... by dividendpayee on Saturday November 18, 2023 @04:37PM (#38324772)
Yeah that's right. There's a blogger in another post on HN that makes the same point at the very end: https://loeber.substack.com/p/a-timeline-of-the-openai-board
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam... by DebtDeflation on Saturday November 18, 2023 @05:31PM (#38325360)
From that link:

>I could not find anything in the way of a source on when, or under what circumstances, Tasha McCauley joined the Board.

I would add, "or why she's on the board or why anyone thought she was qualified to be on the board".

At least with Helen Toner the intent was likely just to add a token AI Safety academic to pacify "concerned" Congressmen.

I am kind of curious how Adam D'Angelo voted. If he voted against removing Sam that would make this even more of a farce.

Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam... by fotta on Saturday November 18, 2023 @06:08PM (#38325772)
D’Angelo had to have voted in favor because otherwise they don’t get a four vote majority.
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam... by DebtDeflation on Saturday November 18, 2023 @06:15PM (#38325859)
You only need 4 votes to have a majority if Sam and Greg were present for the vote, which neither were. Ilya + the 2 stooges voting in favor and D'Angelo voting against would be a 3-1 majority.
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam... by ensignavenger on Sunday November 19, 2023 @02:25PM (#38336721)
Is their corporate charter public? I couldn't find it on their website.
Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam... by Nemi on Sunday November 19, 2023 @02:30PM (#38336796)
I am not an expert, but I don't think that is the way it works. My guess is that the only reason that they could vote without Sam and Greg there is because they had a majority even if they were there. That means they had 4 votes, and that means all other board members voted against Sam and Greg.

It does not seem reasonable that only some members of a board could get together and vote things without others present. This would be chaos.

Re:Details emerge of surprise board coup that ousted CEO Sam... by CamperBob2 on Saturday November 18, 2023 @08:38PM (#38327360)
Super interesting link there. You should submit it, if no one has yet.

"Governance can be messy. Time will be the judge of whether this act of governance was wise or not." (Narrator: specifically, about 12 hours.) "But you should note that the people involved in this act of corporate governance are roughly the same people trying to position themselves to govern policy on artificial intelligence.

"It seems much easier to govern a single-digit number of highly capable people than to “govern” artificial superintelligence. If it turns out that this act of governance was unwise, then it calls into serious question the ability of these people and their organizations (Georgetown’s CSET, Open Philanthropy, etc.) to conduct governance in general, especially of the most impactful technology of the hundred years to come. Many people are saying we need more governance: maybe it turns out we need less."