> This seems way, way more reasonable than WeWork.

Really? Altman advertised and marketed himself as someone with no vested financial interest in OpenAI, but then he's going around creating companies with foreign states and companies that will then sell to the non-profit he's CEO of?

No one is saying that. If the chip making subsidiary was owned by OpenAI it could have very well allowed economies of scale and enable reducing dependency on Microsoft. Perfectly aligned with OpenAI goals.

But it wouldn't be owned by OpenAI - that's the other poster's point. You're making it for them.

To be clear, I don’t think that would be totally above board; it wouldn't seem ethical to my moral compass at least.

I just think it’s far short of the completely indefensible, totally unambiguous, and obviously fraudulent behavior of Neumann.

There are gradations of conflict and malfeasance.

That's a fair and good point.