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Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by CPLX on Saturday November 18, 2023 @06:15AM (#38318137)
What’s hypocritical about a non-profit firing a leader who wanted lots of profits.
Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by jdthedisciple on Saturday November 18, 2023 @06:28AM (#38318258)
Didn't think I'd need to explain this:

The hypocritical part is doing so right AFTER making billions in profits.

An honorable board with backbone would have done so at the first inkling of commercialization instead (which would have been 1-2 years ago).

Maybe you can find a better word for me but the point should be easily gotten ...

Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by diognesofsinope on Saturday November 18, 2023 @07:17AM (#38318667)
Almost more of a "takeover" by the board after it's successful lol
Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by fugalfervor on Saturday November 18, 2023 @07:28AM (#38318787)
OpenAI hasn't made billions in profits. Their operating costs are huge and I'm pretty sure they're heavily reliant on outside funding.
Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by jdthedisciple on Saturday November 18, 2023 @07:31AM (#38318815)
Which puts into question the whole non-profitness anyway, but that aside:

They have still been operating pretty much like a for-profit for years now so my point still stands.

Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by fugalfervor on Saturday November 18, 2023 @07:50AM (#38318962)
Your point hinged on billions in profit. Which you just made up, or assumed to be true for some reason. I don't think any of your points stand. Don't use fact you haven't checked as preconditions for points you want to make.
Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by jdthedisciple on Saturday November 18, 2023 @08:01AM (#38319043)
Conceded, no billions in profit.

Now let's watch as the amazing non-profit champions from the board cut all revenue from GPT-based services by offering them for free because they so truthfully believe in their words. I'm waiting.

Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by fugalfervor on Saturday November 18, 2023 @08:11AM (#38319139)
Again, conjecture with no supporting evidence.
Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by jdthedisciple on Saturday November 18, 2023 @10:11AM (#38320430)
Not sure what you're trying to say.

Clearly, under Altman, OpenAI has been massively successful one way or another, correct?

Now they boot him and claim moral superiority? Really?

Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by CPLX on Saturday November 18, 2023 @10:25AM (#38320570)
I mean, as far as I know the guy hasn't written a single line of code.
Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by bee_rider on Saturday November 18, 2023 @10:58AM (#38320918)
A non-profit doesn’t have to offer their services for free, they can cover their expenses.

A profit driven company will often offer their services below cost in order to chase away the competition and capture users.

Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by jdthedisciple on Saturday November 18, 2023 @11:34AM (#38321298)
Right.

Which is why the board's accusations against Sam are a farce as far as we can see.

Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by bee_rider on Saturday November 18, 2023 @04:04PM (#38324415)
Have they gotten specific yet? Last I heard was the whole “not sufficiently candid” thing, which is really nebulous; hard to call it a farce really. It is a “to be continued.”

I’m going to wait and see before I get too personally attached to any particular position.

Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by ai-sample on Saturday November 18, 2023 @11:35AM (#38321309)
To think that "Non-Profit" means "Free" is pretty naive. There are operating costs to maintain millions of users. That doesn't mean they are trying to profit.
Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by jdthedisciple on Saturday November 18, 2023 @01:57PM (#38323057)
Exactly.

So what's Sam's crime exactly, trying to cover the costs?

Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by layer8 on Saturday November 18, 2023 @07:30AM (#38318802)
Three other board members stepped down this year. It might not have been possible before.
Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by jdthedisciple on Saturday November 18, 2023 @07:32AM (#38318823)
Ofc it's "not possible" in that it may incur personal costs.

But it's the honorable thing to do if you truly believe in something.

Otherwise it's just virtue signalling.

Re:OpenAI announces leadership transition by jprete on Saturday November 18, 2023 @08:19AM (#38319222)
No, they may literally have not had the votes.