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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by bigfudge on Friday November 17, 2023 @11:30AM (#38305786)
I think it's actually just anglo countries. The UK is batshit about cars as well, and I don't think the Aussies are much better.
Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by giobox on Friday November 17, 2023 @11:44AM (#38306041)
This is seemingly changing in UK - younger generations increasingly don't own a private vehicle, due to a whole host of factors including the fact there simply isn't nearly as many affordable cars on the UK market as there was say 20 years ago, as well as the cost of fuel/insurance. It will be interesting to see if trends reverse once cheap EVs inevitably become a thing over the next decade - even entry level EVs are generally significantly more expensive than entry level gas cars used to be in the UK for the time being.

> https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a81dd5340f0b...

Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by ChrisKnott on Friday November 17, 2023 @11:51AM (#38306164)
By what metric? The UK doesn't stand out in this list - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicle... - it's below most of its peer nations.
Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by bigfudge on Saturday November 18, 2023 @11:04AM (#38320984)
We are tiny though, mostly high density and had a great rail inhertence. Given where we could be, I think we are car obsessed. Note also that car use and the right to use residential streets as commuter rat runs is becoming bound up with stupid culture war politics.
Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by rootusrootus on Friday November 17, 2023 @03:32PM (#38309670)
For all the chatter on HN, Europeans in general drive quite a lot. It's fascinating to hear people rail against cars here, and then step back out into meatspace. I just chuckle at the contrast between the dreamers on Reddit/HN and folks in the real world.
Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by moojd on Friday November 17, 2023 @06:02PM (#38311851)
I just got back from a road trip in France and the UK and it's funny how much of the reddit-tier discourse is correct yet simultaneously so wrong. There are plenty of rural towns where everyone owns cars. There are highways, strip malls, large shopping centers with massive parking lots, and populated areas with bus service at best. The difference is the scale and the US lands embarrassingly far on one side of it. Even in the smallest rural towns in France we visited, we could hop on regional rail to the nearest large metro area.