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Re:The night train revolution has been hailed as an alternat... by DrBazza on Friday November 17, 2023 @09:31AM (#38304090)
Unfortunately we have the oldest railway in the world in continuous use, running mostly at capacity, with draconian planning laws, ridiculous land costs, population density, and a stupid general public.

You'd be hard pressed to find any capital project that's been built in the UK that anyone regrets, and that includes the Millenium Dome. I'm old enough to remember opposition to HS1 ("No to route 2!"), and opposition to CrossRail.

No one would argue that any of those were a waste.

Yet we've cancelled parts of HS2.

With the absurd bidding process of:

Govt: we have a budget of £10bn for this section in the Cotswolds, how cheap can you do it?

Bidder, erm, £9.99bn ??

Govt: ok!

Bidder: kerching!

Trying to find the link, but Rob Holden, HS1 boss, stated that HS2 budgets were publicly disclosed and the above is pretty much the outcome of contract firms knowing how much the Govt is prepared to pay.

Had we pressed ahead with HS2 we might have gotten an HS3 and 4, but that's vanishingly unlikely now.

> Assuming the London train even leaves the station and is not delayed or cancelled, as usual.

Apparently German trains are far worse than London right now.

Re:The night train revolution has been hailed as an alternat... by rkachowski on Friday November 17, 2023 @10:43AM (#38305100)
Writing from BER airport, just took a 1.5 hour train from Berlin to get a 2.5 hour airplane to Edinburgh.
Re:The night train revolution has been hailed as an alternat... by IshKebab on Saturday November 18, 2023 @07:17AM (#38318675)
I don't think the Millennium Dome was a success. They could have spent the money more wisely.

I'm always curious about these "we should obviously do it" comments - what if it cost £1tn? Obviously not then right?

Clearly there is a price point at which you should cancel it. What price would you say that is?

Re:The night train revolution has been hailed as an alternat... by traceroute66 on Monday November 20, 2023 @08:01AM (#38347350)
> ridiculous land costs, population density

I'm with you on most points, fair enough.

But don't quote "land costs", and especially please don't cite "population density" at me when comparing UK and Japan.