Re:The Guardian Deletes Osama Bin Laden's 'Letter to America'
by yowzadave on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @10:27PM
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> it is actually true that they are aligned against a secular international order with associated freedom of religion, among many other freedoms
Yes—there was at that time, and there remains to this day, a strong criticism of the US in that part of the world that it is a “decadent” society—which is really another way of saying that there are many freedoms that people avail themselves of that they disagree with.
Re:The Guardian Deletes Osama Bin Laden's 'Letter to America'
by kingofpandora on Thursday November 16, 2023 @01:27AM
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> Not that simple. You think Palestinians love being beholden to the terrorist leadership that refuses to allow elections, is known for stealing their humanitarian aid to enrich themselves on the order of billions of dollars, and operates safely from a foreign country?
According to large segments of the political class in the US, yes they do love it. And in fact they are legitimate targets of the Israeli military because of it.
> If I recall correctly, the terrorists attacked the US because they "don't like freedom". That was the narrative on TV nonstop
A significant part of that particular brand of terrorism is indeed hostile to cultures that don’t share their religious and cultural beliefs. We can’t reduce all of their motivations to singular slogans that fit neatly into TV commercials, but it is actually true that they are aligned against a secular international order with associated freedom of religion, among many other freedoms.
If you were trying to make a cheeky point about how a private entity choosing to take down Osama Bin Laden’s letter is somehow infringing on our freedoms, that’s ironic because they are a private business that is free to choose what they do and do not publish. Ironically, freedom of the press is something very much absent in regimes where these terrorists operate.
> The irony being "terrorists" are just viewed as "martyrs" and "freedom fighters" on the other side of the coin
Not that simple. You think Palestinians love being beholden to the terrorist leadership that refuses to allow elections, is known for stealing their humanitarian aid to enrich themselves on the order of billions of dollars, and operates safely from a foreign country?