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Re:Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years les... by nradov on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @01:49AM (#38274000)
"For Americans age 18-45, the leading cause of death is fentanyl overdose."

https://www.getsmartaboutdrugs.gov/media/dea-administrator-r...

That is a sad situation, but giving up more liberty won't save those people. Freedom is more important than safety and I have no interest in living under an authoritarian police state.

Re:Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years les... by rgmerk on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @02:54AM (#38274327)
Agreed on fentanyl, but there are other areas where nanny-stating saves lives.

The evidence on higher tobacco and alcohol taxes, for instance, is pretty irrefutable.

Or, moving up the implausibility scale in the American context, drastic reductions in the availability of handguns including the mass forfeiture of existing weapons (which has been done in a number of other developed countries).

You may not like any of these, particularly the last, but the fact is that they would increase life expectancy significantly.

Re:Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years les... by shadowgovt on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @05:23PM (#38283459)
It's always interesting to me when people bring up Franklin in this context because the aphorism is usually completely misunderstood.

The audience and context was the colony of Pennsylvania deciding to accept an offer from the Penn family to provide a one-off detachment of mercenaries to patrol the colony's western border in exchange for a perpetual ban on taxing the Penn landholdings.

The safety was border defense. The liberty was the colonial government's authority to pass law. In context, Franklin is saying "The government that cedes its taxation authority over the citizens for a temporary boon from its richest citizens deserves neither the boon nor the authority."

Re:Life expectancy for men in US falls to 73 – six years les... by rgmerk on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @07:13PM (#38284245)
Thank you, that is fascinating!