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Re:U.S. Reenters the Nuclear Fuel Game by toomuchtodo on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @09:28PM (#38272611)
China produces more power from renewables than the entire generation capacity of the UK. You can build more firm generation capacity with solar and batteries than a typical nuclear generator, in a year, at a cheaper price. Hell of a bike.

Nuclear has a niche, but it got steamrolled by the S curve of solar, wind, and batteries.

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Re:U.S. Reenters the Nuclear Fuel Game by tuatoru on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @09:31PM (#38272627)
Slight amendment: China is installing more wind and solar PV generation capacity this year than the entire generation capacity of the UK. The increment, not the total.

Edit: Nuclear power generation in China has, IIRC, tripled in the 21st century.

But demand has gone up much more than twentyfold though, and this year we are the crossover point where wind an PV manufacturing and install rates, and transmission line build rates, exceed the growth of demand, so fossil plants can start to be retired there.

If nuclear can't be built fast in China, where can it?

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Re:U.S. Reenters the Nuclear Fuel Game by toomuchtodo on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @09:33PM (#38272632)
Citation:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/13/chinas-carb...

> The most striking growth has been in solar power, according to Myllyvirta. Solar installations increased by 210 gigawatts (GW) this year alone, which is twice the total solar capacity of the US and four times what China added in 2020.

> The analysis, which is based on official figures and commercial data, found that China installed 70GW of wind power this year – more than the entire power generation capacity of the UK. It is also expected to add 7GW of hydro power and 3GW of nuclear power capacity this year, said the report.

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Re:U.S. Reenters the Nuclear Fuel Game by dalyons on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @10:21PM (#38272914)
You won’t get an answer to this. The energy world has changed very quickly in the past few years, and many can’t adjust their opinions to take new data and trends into account.
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Re:U.S. Reenters the Nuclear Fuel Game by csomar on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @10:23PM (#38272927)
It would be interesting to see what the consequences of that would be. China solar addition scale is from another fourth dimension. Not only it is massive but it seems to be accelerating too. They added more in PV Solar in 2022 than the whole PV installations of Germany. It seems that the politicians there realize that being dependent on unstable regions (ie: Middle-East) for fuel is not wise. They are not B.S.ing their population with green propaganda and instead going full speed for PV solar and electric vehicles.

Edit: I found the 2022 numbers on Wikipedia and got curious what the 2023 outlook is going to be. It is shocking: https://www.rystadenergy.com/news/china-s-solar-capacity-sur... Their 2023 numbers are double the 2022.

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